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Post by Make 15 on Mar 28, 2007 9:41:43 GMT -5
This was posted on the Moose board...
"Moncton could also be short a couple of players tonight, but not due to injury. Tapes have been sent to the Q office of Lincourt's boarding of White and of MacDonald's three successive two-handers on Pridham's ankle. Decisions on both are expected before tonight's game."
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Post by jimmy on Mar 28, 2007 9:49:57 GMT -5
This was posted on the Moose board... "Moncton could also be short a couple of players tonight, but not due to injury. Tapes have been sent to the Q office of Lincourt's boarding of White and of MacDonald's three successive two-handers on Pridham's ankle. Decisions on both are expected before tonight's game." Minus MacDonald, are chances of winning are zero ... better hope the league gives him a pass ...
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 28, 2007 10:02:58 GMT -5
If we are folding the tent and just playing out the series then that attitude is fine. But if we want to win then going with Riopel is the wrong approach. Both goalies are playing poorly ... I'd rather lose knowing that we tried to win rather than quit after Game 4 when the series was tied 2-2. If you have a rookie playing poorly and a veteran playing poorly ... I'd go with the veteran and hope he can turn it around. Too much blame on the goaltenders though ... the entire team has to tighten up and put forth a stronger effort. Why would the veteran be more likely to turn it around? Riopel has outplayed him all year(except the Lewiston games). If anything Riopel has a better chance to turn it around, he was getting his first playoff starts and may have had a case of nerves...Sniderman has been playing at this level 3+ years, no reason for him to be bothered by pressure. The defensive zone play and PK has to be much better to give either guy a chance. Why would the veteran be more likely to turn it around? Are you serious ? The odds are that the veteran will be able to turn it around because he is more experienced. Are you suggesting that the odds are in Riopel's favour ? You'd never be an oddsmaker at Vegas. Sniderman has carried this team on many occasions this year ... while Riopel has done it only a few times ... after the season opener its hard to recall another. Sniderman has had an ability in the past to get up for big games ... Lewiston as you mentioned ... some solid games vs CB too. All we can go on is what these guys have done in the past and what we know they can do. I'll take Sniderman and hope he can come up with the magic again. If I was going to bet on the game ... I'd wait to find out who our goaltender was going to be ... and wager more if Sniderman was playing.
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Post by gongshow on Mar 28, 2007 10:09:11 GMT -5
This was posted on the Moose board... "Moncton could also be short a couple of players tonight, but not due to injury. Tapes have been sent to the Q office of Lincourt's boarding of White and of MacDonald's three successive two-handers on Pridham's ankle. Decisions on both are expected before tonight's game." I seen the 3 slashes on Pridham and I must say it was very greasy on the part of MacDonald.....all 3 were vicious but luckily(for Pridham)only the 3rd only seemed to have hurt,he did seem to be in an awful amount of pain....barely making it to the bench. The best part of this sequence was no penalty was given to AMAc,instead they called welton for a crosscheck...it's hard to imagine both refs missed it as Pridham had the puck....could it be because he didn't take a Morehouse type dive and flop like he got shot? I could see A.Mac and Lincourt each get 1 game,but will the Q actually punish the cats?...I doubt it.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 28, 2007 10:11:49 GMT -5
We won't win this series relying on Riopel ... we need to go with Sniderman and expect better from the veteran. He hasn't done it in 2007, .876 is why Riopel is starting. So this doesn't hold true anymore ? When you thought Riopel's S% was higher than Sniderman's you figured it was a slam dunk ... but in fact Sniderman's is 0.857 and Riopel's is 0.842 ... I believe you were looking at the wrong line and quoted Lafleur's numbers. Sniderman's GAA is higher ... 5.72 vs 4.97 (holy crap those are bad numbers) ... but he has also faced on average 40 shots per game compared to 31 for Riopel ... 76 total shots in 144 mins of play (Riopel) vs 63 total shots in 94 mins of play (Sniderman). Looks to me that Sniderman has been hung out to dry a little by his teammates ... Riopel too but a little less.
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Post by jimmy on Mar 28, 2007 10:38:32 GMT -5
He hasn't done it in 2007, .876 is why Riopel is starting. So this doesn't hold true anymore ? When you thought Riopel's S% was higher than Sniderman's you figured it was a slam dunk ... but in fact Sniderman's is 0.857 and Riopel's is 0.842 ... I believe you were looking at the wrong line and quoted Lafleur's numbers. Sniderman's GAA is higher ... 5.72 vs 4.97 (holy crap those are bad numbers) ... but he has also faced on average 40 shots per game compared to 31 for Riopel ... 76 total shots in 144 mins of play (Riopel) vs 63 total shots in 94 mins of play (Sniderman). Looks to me that Sniderman has been hung out to dry a little by his teammates ... Riopel too but a little less. I think you are quoting playoff stats only, while Billy is referring to stats from Jan 1 on ... You are arguing that Sniderman is more likely to turn it around based on his showings in big games - not sure how true that is based on second half performance ... At this point, I am not convinced either of them can be counted on to come up with a huge game ...
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Post by bikerboy on Mar 28, 2007 11:02:53 GMT -5
the fact is that we are now not the past and Riopel is going to start tonight like it or not !
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Post by schrader on Mar 28, 2007 11:19:57 GMT -5
This was posted on the Moose board... "Moncton could also be short a couple of players tonight, but not due to injury. Tapes have been sent to the Q office of Lincourt's boarding of White and of MacDonald's three successive two-handers on Pridham's ankle. Decisions on both are expected before tonight's game." I seen the 3 slashes on Pridham and I must say it was very greasy on the part of MacDonald.....all 3 were vicious but luckily(for Pridham)only the 3rd only seemed to have hurt,he did seem to be in an awful amount of pain....barely making it to the bench. The best part of this sequence was no penalty was given to AMAc,instead they called welton for a crosscheck...it's hard to imagine both refs missed it as Pridham had the puck....could it be because he didn't take a Morehouse type dive and flop like he got shot? I could see A.Mac and Lincourt each get 1 game,but will the Q actually punish the cats?...I doubt it. Where are you from again. And your a fan of who... oh yes the QMJHL ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gongshow on Mar 28, 2007 11:43:56 GMT -5
I seen the 3 slashes on Pridham and I must say it was very greasy on the part of MacDonald.....all 3 were vicious but luckily(for Pridham)only the 3rd only seemed to have hurt,he did seem to be in an awful amount of pain....barely making it to the bench. The best part of this sequence was no penalty was given to AMAc,instead they called welton for a crosscheck...it's hard to imagine both refs missed it as Pridham had the puck....could it be because he didn't take a Morehouse type dive and flop like he got shot? I could see A.Mac and Lincourt each get 1 game,but will the Q actually punish the cats?...I doubt it. Where are you from again. And your a fan of who... oh yes the QMJHL ;D ;D ;D Oh,my apoligies for calling it like it is. So,what's your opinion on the slashes? Did you get a chance to watch that game yet? Even if I was a diehard fan I still wouldn't have a problem admitting that 3 consecutive hard slashes to the foot is greasy....just because a Cats player comitted the infraction doesn't make it any better.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Mar 28, 2007 11:52:29 GMT -5
Why would the veteran be more likely to turn it around? Riopel has outplayed him all year(except the Lewiston games). If anything Riopel has a better chance to turn it around, he was getting his first playoff starts and may have had a case of nerves...Sniderman has been playing at this level 3+ years, no reason for him to be bothered by pressure. The defensive zone play and PK has to be much better to give either guy a chance. Why would the veteran be more likely to turn it around? Are you serious ? The odds are that the veteran will be able to turn it around because he is more experienced. Are you suggesting that the odds are in Riopel's favour ? You'd never be an oddsmaker at Vegas. Sniderman has carried this team on many occasions this year ... while Riopel has done it only a few times ... after the season opener its hard to recall another. Sniderman has had an ability in the past to get up for big games ... Lewiston as you mentioned ... some solid games vs CB too. All we can go on is what these guys have done in the past and what we know they can do. I'll take Sniderman and hope he can come up with the magic again. If I was going to bet on the game ... I'd wait to find out who our goaltender was going to be ... and wager more if Sniderman was playing. If experience was such a big factor, why did Sniderman get outplayed by Riopel all year? Except for his games against Lewiston, Sniderman has been average at best. Riopel for the year as a whole has been above average. Before you turn into an oddsmaker, look at both goalies' stats. Not sure you come up with Sniderman carrying the team. Rio has an excuse for struggling a bit, he is a rookie getting his first taste of Q playoffs...what's Sniderman's excuse?
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Mar 28, 2007 11:55:41 GMT -5
He hasn't done it in 2007, .876 is why Riopel is starting. So this doesn't hold true anymore ? When you thought Riopel's S% was higher than Sniderman's you figured it was a slam dunk ... but in fact Sniderman's is 0.857 and Riopel's is 0.842 ... I believe you were looking at the wrong line and quoted Lafleur's numbers. Sniderman's GAA is higher ... 5.72 vs 4.97 (holy crap those are bad numbers) ... but he has also faced on average 40 shots per game compared to 31 for Riopel ... 76 total shots in 144 mins of play (Riopel) vs 63 total shots in 94 mins of play (Sniderman). Looks to me that Sniderman has been hung out to dry a little by his teammates ... Riopel too but a little less. Both guys have played subpar...plus the PK and defensive zone coverage has been brutal so far. My point is that Rio outplayed him all year, including since January 1st where Sniderman has been .876(regular season). What makes you think Sniderman will suddenly be better?
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 28, 2007 12:05:45 GMT -5
So this doesn't hold true anymore ? When you thought Riopel's S% was higher than Sniderman's you figured it was a slam dunk ... but in fact Sniderman's is 0.857 and Riopel's is 0.842 ... I believe you were looking at the wrong line and quoted Lafleur's numbers. Sniderman's GAA is higher ... 5.72 vs 4.97 (holy crap those are bad numbers) ... but he has also faced on average 40 shots per game compared to 31 for Riopel ... 76 total shots in 144 mins of play (Riopel) vs 63 total shots in 94 mins of play (Sniderman). Looks to me that Sniderman has been hung out to dry a little by his teammates ... Riopel too but a little less. Both guys have played subpar...plus the PK and defensive zone coverage has been brutal so far. My point is that Rio outplayed him all year, including since January 1st where Sniderman has been .876(regular season). What makes you think Sniderman will suddenly be better? They both can be better ... we have seen better from them on many occasions. But if I had to hope for one of them to raise his game to what we expected I'd bet on Sniderman. Riopel has outplayed Sniderman all year ? ... what an exageration. Sniderman was a major reason why Moncton had to make a tough decision at the trade deadline on what to do. Its amazing that you turn on him so quickly and forget what he has done all year. We'll lose this series if we go with Riopel ... we'll have a chance to win if we go with Sniderman.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Mar 28, 2007 12:16:29 GMT -5
Both guys have played subpar...plus the PK and defensive zone coverage has been brutal so far. My point is that Rio outplayed him all year, including since January 1st where Sniderman has been .876(regular season). What makes you think Sniderman will suddenly be better? They both can be better ... we have seen better from them on many occasions. But if I had to hope for one of them to raise his game to what we expected I'd bet on Sniderman. Riopel has outplayed Sniderman all year ? ... what an exageration. Sniderman was a major reason why Moncton had to make a tough decision at the trade deadline on what to do. Its amazing that you turn on him so quickly and forget what he has done all year. We'll lose this series if we go with Riopel ... we'll have a chance to win if we go with Sniderman. Why do you expect Sniderman to raise his game and not Rio? Go look at the stats, Rio is 0.42 better in GAA(nearly half a goal a game) and .013 better in save% through the season. That would suggest that if Rio "raises his game" he will play at a higher level than Sniderman. Above all else, the PK and defensive zone coverage have to give either guy a chance, they have left far too many players wide open this series.
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Post by schrader on Mar 28, 2007 12:34:20 GMT -5
Where are you from again. And your a fan of who... oh yes the QMJHL ;D ;D ;D Oh,my apoligies for calling it like it is. So,what's your opinion on the slashes? Did you get a chance to watch that game yet? Even if I was a diehard fan I still wouldn't have a problem admitting that 3 consecutive hard slashes to the foot is greasy....just because a Cats player comitted the infraction doesn't make it any better. hey if he had a problem with the slashes maybe he should have dropped the gloves.....Then you would have enjoyed that
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Post by chaos12 on Mar 28, 2007 12:59:54 GMT -5
hey since this maybe the last hockey game i see this year how much are playoff tickets the last 2 i got for free from a friend cause she had season tickets with one spare seat. anyone know how much a student playoff ticket costs?
thanks
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