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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 3, 2007 13:14:38 GMT -5
Getting back to the "who's the underdog" debate for a second, here are the odds taken from sports betting site bwin.com.... take it for what it's worth. Moncton regulation win: -250 (1.40) Halifax regulation win: +330 (4.30) OT +500 (6.00) That's some DAMN good value on Halifax. Its not hard to determine who the under dog was in this series, just look at the standings....4th Vs 14th
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Post by Make 15 on Apr 3, 2007 13:39:33 GMT -5
Let's compare the 4 vs. 14 theory to what those match-up's would look like in the two other major junior leagues in Canada: QMJHL - #4 Moncton Wildcats 84 Pts #14 Halifax Mooseheads 71 Pts = Difference of 13 Pts OHL - #4 Barrie Colts 97 Pts #14 Sudbury Wolves 67 Pts = difference of 30 pts WHL - #4 Vancouver Giants 100 Pts #14 Lethbridge Hurricanes 71 Pts = difference of 29 pts So as you can clearly see this is not the typical 4 vs. 14 match-up. So Moose fans can stop playing that card now
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 3, 2007 13:44:48 GMT -5
Let's compare the 4 vs. 14 theory to what those match-up's would look like in the two other major junior leagues in Canada: QMJHL - #4 Moncton Wildcats 84 Pts #14 Halifax Mooseheads 71 Pts = Difference of 13 Pts OHL - #4 Barrie Colts 97 Pts #14 Sudbury Wolves 67 Pts = difference of 30 pts WHL - #4 Vancouver Giants 100 Pts #14 Lethbridge Hurricanes 71 Pts = difference of 29 pts So as you can clearly see this is not the typical 4 vs. 14 match-up. So Moose fans can stop playing that card now Why should they, Moncton fans keep playing the "rebuilding" card
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Post by Not2wonder on Apr 3, 2007 13:46:56 GMT -5
Let's compare the 4 vs. 14 theory to what those match-up's would look like in the two other major junior leagues in Canada: QMJHL - #4 Moncton Wildcats 84 Pts #14 Halifax Mooseheads 71 Pts = Difference of 13 Pts OHL - #4 Barrie Colts 97 Pts #14 Sudbury Wolves 67 Pts = difference of 30 pts WHL - #4 Vancouver Giants 100 Pts #14 Lethbridge Hurricanes 71 Pts = difference of 29 pts So as you can clearly see this is not the typical 4 vs. 14 match-up. So Moose fans can stop playing that card now Why should they, Moncton fans keep playing the "rebuilding" card Titan fans play the next year card.......... LGM plays the this years card for the last 4 years! Go figure!
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Post by Milo on Apr 3, 2007 13:52:37 GMT -5
Its not hard to determine who the under dog was in this series, just look at the standings....4th Vs 14th You mean 3rd vs 6th. 4th vs 14th, with the mid-pack East teams being SO much weaker than the mid-pack Telus teams this year, coupled with the lack of games between the two divisions, is about as relevant of an indicator as if we added OHL, WHL and NHL teams into the mix. But I do agree, there's no way Moncton should be treated as the underdog against Halifax. Bottom line is the Cats have found ways to win despite the obvious talent disadvantage and horrible special teams all season long... their record vs other mid-pack East division teams speaks for itself.
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 3, 2007 14:57:59 GMT -5
Its not hard to determine who the under dog was in this series, just look at the standings....4th Vs 14th You mean 3rd vs 6th. 4th vs 14th, with the mid-pack East teams being SO much weaker than the mid-pack Telus teams this year, coupled with the lack of games between the two divisions, is about as relevant of an indicator as if we added OHL, WHL and NHL teams into the mix. But I do agree, there's no way Moncton should be treated as the underdog against Halifax. Bottom line is the Cats have found ways to win despite the obvious talent disadvantage and horrible special teams all season long... their record vs other mid-pack East division teams speaks for itself. If you agree, then why are you arguing?
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Post by Milo on Apr 3, 2007 15:19:48 GMT -5
For shits and giggles?
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Post by gongshow on Apr 3, 2007 15:40:38 GMT -5
Its not hard to determine who the under dog was in this series, just look at the standings....4th Vs 14th You mean 3rd vs 6th. 4th vs 14th, with the mid-pack East teams being SO much weaker than the mid-pack Telus teams this year, coupled with the lack of games between the two divisions, is about as relevant of an indicator as if we added OHL, WHL and NHL teams into the mix. But I do agree, there's no way Moncton should be treated as the underdog against Halifax. Bottom line is the Cats have found ways to win despite the obvious talent disadvantage and horrible special teams all season long... their record vs other mid-pack East division teams speaks for itself. I don't think the cats have found ways to win as much as |Halfax has found ways to lose. Once again with a half decent goalie Halfax sweeps this series....the Cats goals have not been unstoppable,I'd even be willing to say that 90% of their goals should've been stopped.On the other side even though Mct's goaltending has been iffy they have been tested with much more quality shots...Halfax has generated some very skilled scoring chances,however the Cats goalies have let in some softies. Dangerous shots in this series-Halifax(106) vs Moncton(64) Put this into perspective and its proof that the Cats have received much better goaltending thus explaining the only reason there is a game7....once again if Halifax gets DECENT goaltending they sweep no prob.
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 3, 2007 16:03:10 GMT -5
You mean 3rd vs 6th. 4th vs 14th, with the mid-pack East teams being SO much weaker than the mid-pack Telus teams this year, coupled with the lack of games between the two divisions, is about as relevant of an indicator as if we added OHL, WHL and NHL teams into the mix. But I do agree, there's no way Moncton should be treated as the underdog against Halifax. Bottom line is the Cats have found ways to win despite the obvious talent disadvantage and horrible special teams all season long... their record vs other mid-pack East division teams speaks for itself. I don't think the cats have found ways to win as much as |Halfax has found ways to lose. Once again with a half decent goalie Halfax sweeps this series....the Cats goals have not been unstoppable,I'd even be willing to say that 90% of their goals should've been stopped.On the other side even though Mct's goaltending has been iffy they have been tested with much more quality shots...Halfax has generated some very skilled scoring chances,however the Cats goalies have let in some softies. Dangerous shots in this series-Halifax(106) vs Moncton(64) Put this into perspective and its proof that the Cats have received much better goaltending thus explaining the only reason there is a game7....once again if Halifax gets DECENT goaltending they sweep no prob. Yetman 6 6 3 3 0 331.15 3.80 0.857 Sniderman 5 6 2 0 174.23 4.47 0.865 Riopel 4 6 1 3 0 184.57 5.19 0.842 These are the numbers just to compare. I say they're all pretty equal except for Riopel. He's a rookie so it's not a big deal. all in all, Goaltending is horrible for both teams. Any of these 2 teams has solid consistant goaltending, they would have won the series hands down. Whomever has the best goalie tonight will win.
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