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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 13:38:13 GMT -5
I agree with Nolan's comments in today's paper about all the penalty calls in the first period. That was pathetic and I was saying in the first intermission that it's a good thing they did away with the two line pass call and added the touch up offside rule because with all the penalties that were being called it slowed the game down something terrible. I know that Mills was likely trying to show who's boss in the first and keep things under control but come on! I paid to see a hockey game not the referee blowing his whistle all period. I know the new rules state that they are going to call the obstruction calls even more this year but it really slowed the pace of the game in that first period. Mills must of realized that he had somewhere to be at the end of the game and for the most part let the teams play during the second and third period so the game would not end at 11pm. If they do it right and keep on doing it, it will be short term pain for long term gain. Hopefully they keep calling the hooking and interference and the players adjust...and as a result the game opens up.
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 13:58:17 GMT -5
Quote: " I know the new rules state that they are going to call the obstruction calls even more this year but it really slowed the pace of the game in that first period." Pretty hilarious to believe that calling interference is actually slowing down the game It might be interfering though with the clutching and grabbing that Nolan or Larue got us used to By having the refs calling what has to be called, it will require the Nolans of this world to change their coaching habits....darn good idea...
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Post by Dar on Aug 26, 2005 14:10:51 GMT -5
Quote: " I know the new rules state that they are going to call the obstruction calls even more this year but it really slowed the pace of the game in that first period." Pretty hilarious to believe that calling interference is actually slowing down the game It might be interfering though with the clutching and grabbing that Nolan or Larue got us used to By having the refs calling what has to be called, it will require the Nolans of this world to change their coaching habits....darn good idea... Chsb obviously doesn't know the meaning of "slowing down the pace of the game"
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 14:14:50 GMT -5
Quote: " I know the new rules state that they are going to call the obstruction calls even more this year but it really slowed the pace of the game in that first period." Pretty hilarious to believe that calling interference is actually slowing down the game It might be interfering though with the clutching and grabbing that Nolan or Larue got us used to By having the refs calling what has to be called, it will require the Nolans of this world to change their coaching habits....darn good idea... What Nolan are you talking about? If you are refering to Ted Nolan, how many games in Sault Ste Marie or Buffalo did you attend and what do you have as proof that he preaches hooking and obstruction? Once again you manage to pull something out of your ass.
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 14:18:36 GMT -5
Quote: " I know the new rules state that they are going to call the obstruction calls even more this year but it really slowed the pace of the game in that first period." Pretty hilarious to believe that calling interference is actually slowing down the game It might be interfering though with the clutching and grabbing that Nolan or Larue got us used to By having the refs calling what has to be called, it will require the Nolans of this world to change their coaching habits....darn good idea... What Nolan are you talking about? If you are refering to Ted Nolan, how many games in Sault Ste Marie or Buffalo did you attend and what do you have as proof that he preaches hooking and obstruction? Once again you manage to pull something out of your ass. How can a bunch of grinders win the Mem Cup or get to the NHL final otherwise Do you think people are stupid? This is THE rule that will affect the most the WCs outcome this year...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 14:22:17 GMT -5
What Nolan are you talking about? If you are refering to Ted Nolan, how many games in Sault Ste Marie or Buffalo did you attend and what do you have as proof that he preaches hooking and obstruction? Once again you manage to pull something out of your ass. How can a bunch of grinders win the Mem Cup or get to the NHL final otherwise Do you think people are stupid? This is THE rule that will affect the most the WCs outcome this year... So you think he will trade Welton Bartulis Yandle Marchand Karsums Graham Pineault Goulet for less skilled grinders?
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 14:37:09 GMT -5
No but he will hire some Junior A players for grit and toughness over skilled rookies for sure. How do you think this will translate on 3rd and 4th lines?
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 14:48:27 GMT -5
No but he will hire some Junior A players for grit and toughness over skilled rookies for sure. How do you think this will translate on 3rd and 4th lines? The 3rd line will be 3 of Girard/Marquardt Gaudet Samson and Chabot, which of those 5 are slow footed Jr.A grinders? You guys got Clowe Morier Sonier and Belanger that are slow footed thugs, how is that any different than Moore Spencer and Obelnicki?
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 14:52:39 GMT -5
No but he will hire some Junior A players for grit and toughness over skilled rookies for sure. How do you think this will translate on 3rd and 4th lines? The 3rd line will be 3 of Girard/Marquardt Gaudet Samson and Chabot, which of those 5 are slow footed Jr.A grinders? You guys got Clowe Morier Sonier and Belanger that are slow footed thugs, how is that any different than Moore Spencer and Obelnicki? If you check better Morier, you will see that he is a very good skater, plus add Bertrand and Joly to that, even Gadoury, and you will see that our 4th line depth is much better skilled than your thugs. We could roll in 4 speedy lines without problem...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 14:58:26 GMT -5
The 3rd line will be 3 of Girard/Marquardt Gaudet Samson and Chabot, which of those 5 are slow footed Jr.A grinders? You guys got Clowe Morier Sonier and Belanger that are slow footed thugs, how is that any different than Moore Spencer and Obelnicki? If you check better Morier, you will see that he is a very good skater, plus add Bertrand and Joly to that, even Gadoury, and you will see that our 4th line depth is much better skilled than your thugs. We could roll in 4 speedy lines without problem... Since when does a team's 4th line win them any games? I'll take tough guys and bangers that can change the momentum of a game any day.
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 16:02:57 GMT -5
Quote: "Since when does a team's 4th line win them any games? I'll take tough guys and bangers that can change the momentum of a game any day." Here is another counter quote: Reigning NHL penalty-minutes leader Sean Avery has some advice for his colleagues in the he-man, tough-guy club: Get some wheels or take a seat. "I think now if you can't skate, you can't play. That's what it comes down to," Avery said after an informal workout with some of his Los Angeles Kings teammates and other players on the West Coast. "Do you need a Georges Laraque on your team? I don't think so," said the lean, 5-foot-10, 185-pound Avery, who topped all NHLers in 2003-04 with 261 penalty minutes. "You're going to have to have guys who can do something other than get on the ice for five or six minutes a night and bear hug guys." sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2143559Personally I would get rid of guys like Adam Clow on the Titan team and I was very happy to see that the Titans made some room for younger rookies instead of Davidson. But the Nolan strategy, the Larue strategy, the Paiment strategy are counter stream and might affect the picture of the Maritimes Division, not allowing it to change fast enough. After that everybody will scratch their head wondering why the Québec based teams keep winning the Prez Cup every year...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 26, 2005 16:26:21 GMT -5
Quote: "Since when does a team's 4th line win them any games? I'll take tough guys and bangers that can change the momentum of a game any day." Here is another counter quote: Reigning NHL penalty-minutes leader Sean Avery has some advice for his colleagues in the he-man, tough-guy club: Get some wheels or take a seat. "I think now if you can't skate, you can't play. That's what it comes down to," Avery said after an informal workout with some of his Los Angeles Kings teammates and other players on the West Coast. "Do you need a Georges Laraque on your team? I don't think so," said the lean, 5-foot-10, 185-pound Avery, who topped all NHLers in 2003-04 with 261 penalty minutes. "You're going to have to have guys who can do something other than get on the ice for five or six minutes a night and bear hug guys." sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2143559Personally I would get rid of guys like Adam Clow on the Titan team and I was very happy to see that the Titans made some room for younger rookies instead of Davidson. But the Nolan strategy, the Larue strategy, the Paiment strategy are counter stream and might affect the picture of the Maritimes Division, not allowing it to change fast enough. After that everybody will scratch their head wondering why the Québec based teams keep winning the Prez Cup every year... The Wildcat strategy seems to have worked pretty good over the last 4 years, the Titan strategy has only yielded last place finishes.
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 16:57:20 GMT -5
Quote: "Since when does a team's 4th line win them any games? I'll take tough guys and bangers that can change the momentum of a game any day." Here is another counter quote: Reigning NHL penalty-minutes leader Sean Avery has some advice for his colleagues in the he-man, tough-guy club: Get some wheels or take a seat. "I think now if you can't skate, you can't play. That's what it comes down to," Avery said after an informal workout with some of his Los Angeles Kings teammates and other players on the West Coast. "Do you need a Georges Laraque on your team? I don't think so," said the lean, 5-foot-10, 185-pound Avery, who topped all NHLers in 2003-04 with 261 penalty minutes. "You're going to have to have guys who can do something other than get on the ice for five or six minutes a night and bear hug guys." sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2143559Personally I would get rid of guys like Adam Clow on the Titan team and I was very happy to see that the Titans made some room for younger rookies instead of Davidson. But the Nolan strategy, the Larue strategy, the Paiment strategy are counter stream and might affect the picture of the Maritimes Division, not allowing it to change fast enough. After that everybody will scratch their head wondering why the Québec based teams keep winning the Prez Cup every year... The Wildcat strategy seems to have worked pretty good over the last 4 years, the Titan strategy has only yielded last place finishes. Do you mean the last four years or the last two years?? Notwithstanding your opinion, the Titan did very well thank you in the first two of the last four years. But....you can believe or do what you want, remain status quo, stay put, but...the fact is that the hockey world is changing very quickly and old strategies won't work any more.
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Post by MikeC on Aug 26, 2005 18:28:07 GMT -5
Here is another counter quote: Reigning NHL penalty-minutes leader Sean Avery has some advice for his colleagues in the he-man, tough-guy club: Get some wheels or take a seat. "I think now if you can't skate, you can't play. That's what it comes down to," Avery said after an informal workout with some of his Los Angeles Kings teammates and other players on the West Coast. "Do you need a Georges Laraque on your team? I don't think so," said the lean, 5-foot-10, 185-pound Avery, who topped all NHLers in 2003-04 with 261 penalty minutes. "You're going to have to have guys who can do something other than get on the ice for five or six minutes a night and bear hug guys." sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2143559You have to take Avery's comments with a grain of salt. While there is some truth to what he said, I think he just wanted to fire a shot at Laraque. Earlier this year, after Avery said Goodenow 'brainwashed' the players, Laraque had some pretty strong words for Avery. I'm pretty sure this was Avery returning the shot.
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Post by cbtitan on Aug 26, 2005 19:48:57 GMT -5
Here is another counter quote: Reigning NHL penalty-minutes leader Sean Avery has some advice for his colleagues in the he-man, tough-guy club: Get some wheels or take a seat. "I think now if you can't skate, you can't play. That's what it comes down to," Avery said after an informal workout with some of his Los Angeles Kings teammates and other players on the West Coast. "Do you need a Georges Laraque on your team? I don't think so," said the lean, 5-foot-10, 185-pound Avery, who topped all NHLers in 2003-04 with 261 penalty minutes. "You're going to have to have guys who can do something other than get on the ice for five or six minutes a night and bear hug guys." sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2143559You have to take Avery's comments with a grain of salt. While there is some truth to what he said, I think he just wanted to fire a shot at Laraque. Earlier this year, after Avery said Goodenow 'brainwashed' the players, Laraque had some pretty strong words for Avery. I'm pretty sure this was Avery returning the shot. Of course Laraque would side with Goodenow... Where else could he find a goon job with such a pay check?
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