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Post by mikeb on Jun 20, 2005 7:18:14 GMT -5
Throwing away draft picks in the top 5 rounds for no good reason. Seems I've seen that before. Must something in the NB water.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 20, 2005 7:28:33 GMT -5
This line still offers hope ...
"Yandle's status is dependent upon his admission to the school and his being cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse."
It seems the hockey program wants him ... but perhaps the academic standards of the school would over-rule it. UNH passed on him for some reason that obviously wasn't hockey related. Are the standards at UofM lower ?
Anybody know what the "NCAA Clearinghouse" is ?
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 20, 2005 7:39:27 GMT -5
This line still offers hope ... "Yandle's status is dependent upon his admission to the school and his being cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse." It seems the hockey program wants him ... but perhaps the academic standards of the school would over-rule it. UNH passed on him for some reason that obviously wasn't hockey related. Are the standards at UofM lower ? Anybody know what the "NCAA Clearinghouse" is ? They review athletes' files to determine if players are academically eligible or not.
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Post by hockeyfan42 on Jun 20, 2005 13:29:35 GMT -5
This line still offers hope ... "Yandle's status is dependent upon his admission to the school and his being cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse." It seems the hockey program wants him ... but perhaps the academic standards of the school would over-rule it. UNH passed on him for some reason that obviously wasn't hockey related. Are the standards at UofM lower ? Anybody know what the "NCAA Clearinghouse" is ? They review athletes' files to determine if players are academically eligible or not. And they can be quite the sticklers. U Maine once almost had to forfiet games because of the mis- allocation of a Miltary Science course taken by a transer student. A place like Cushing should have their ducks in a row though.
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Post by mikeb on Jun 20, 2005 14:42:02 GMT -5
If things fall into place (unexpectedly) and Bernierand Saunders are back along with Bourque and Yandle (although this guy is still more of an unknown wrt what he can contribute unlike Bourque who has played at a high level), then the Wildcats look fairly good "on paper". The base of a solid team is there (being among the top 3 or 4).
If Bernier and Saunders aren't back and Bourque (especially) and Yandle are no shows. Moncton is a team that could be struggling to get into the "real" contender status. And to get to the required Memorial Cup level (to avoid public humiliation ), the Wildcats are going to bleed severely in the future..... but it will have to be done. No way to avoid it now.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 20, 2005 15:01:19 GMT -5
If things fall into place (unexpectedly) and Bernierand Saunders are back along with Bourque and Yandle (although this guy is still more of an unknown wrt what he can contribute unlike Bourque who has played at a high level), then the Wildcats look fairly good "on paper". The base of a solid team is there (being among the top 3 or 4). If Bernier and Saunders aren't back and Bourque (especially) and Yandle are no shows. Moncton is a team that could be struggling to get into the "real" contender status. And to get to the required Memorial Cup level (to avoid public humiliation ), the Wildcats are going to bleed severely in the future..... but it will have to be done. No way to avoid it now. Agree completely with you mikeb ... the Cats have the makings of a contender on paper, but it may just be a house of cards. I am hoping that management knows a lot more than us fans, because it appears we are placing a lot of our hopes on some pretty big question marks: - Will Saunders, Graham, and Bernier return? - Will Bourque and Yandle report? - Are Belanger's problems behind him? If the answer to all of these is yes, I like our chances ... if all are no, then we are missing a lot of pieces. Most likely, some will be yes, and others will be no... If all of the above falls into place, our team looks very strong on paper. Goalies: Blanchard and Cote-Vallieres Some questions here, mainly about whether JCB can step and handle the number 1 job. I am not overly worried, he is a former #1 pick, who had a very solid rookie season and should be capable of building on it. Refer to my next point regarding our defense as well. Defense: Saunders and Bartulis return as top pair. Yandle and Belanger play as second pair. Welton and Adam as third pair, leaving guys like Blanchette, Demers and Tanguay for depth. If that isn't the top blueline in the league on paper, it has to be awfully close... Forwards: Top 6 of Bernier, Karsums, Graham, Bourque, Pineault, and Goulet, with Marchand knocking at the door. Any one of those seven guys could have 30 goals without it being a huge shocker (clearly not all will). Any of the first five could have 40 goals without it being a huge shocker (again clearly they won't all - just saying that any one of them could...)Third line could have Gaudet, Samson, and possibly Goulet in Marchand proves ready for a scoring role. 4th line is nothing special, but guys like Donovan, Francis, Chabot, and our free agents should be molded into something servicable.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 20, 2005 15:48:10 GMT -5
If things fall into place (unexpectedly) and Bernierand Saunders are back along with Bourque and Yandle (although this guy is still more of an unknown wrt what he can contribute unlike Bourque who has played at a high level), then the Wildcats look fairly good "on paper". The base of a solid team is there (being among the top 3 or 4). If Bernier and Saunders aren't back and Bourque (especially) and Yandle are no shows. Moncton is a team that could be struggling to get into the "real" contender status. And to get to the required Memorial Cup level (to avoid public humiliation ), the Wildcats are going to bleed severely in the future..... but it will have to be done. No way to avoid it now. I think most people expect Bernier to go pro...to me it's a no brainer...but it opens up a spot for a top 20 year old forward or d-man.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 21, 2005 7:08:28 GMT -5
If things fall into place (unexpectedly) and Bernierand Saunders are back along with Bourque and Yandle (although this guy is still more of an unknown wrt what he can contribute unlike Bourque who has played at a high level), then the Wildcats look fairly good "on paper". The base of a solid team is there (being among the top 3 or 4). If Bernier and Saunders aren't back and Bourque (especially) and Yandle are no shows. Moncton is a team that could be struggling to get into the "real" contender status. And to get to the required Memorial Cup level (to avoid public humiliation ), the Wildcats are going to bleed severely in the future..... but it will have to be done. No way to avoid it now. I think most people expect Bernier to go pro...to me it's a no brainer...but it opens up a spot for a top 20 year old forward or d-man. I think you are right. What do you think the odds are of them keeping Hepditch as one of their overagers to start the year (and possibly trading for an other overager at Xmas when we have a better idea of what we need - i.e. skill, grit, size, speed, forward, defense, goal, etc..)? Skill wise he doesn't seem to belong, but team management and the former coaching regime seem quite high on his leadership contributions...
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Post by mikeb on Jun 21, 2005 7:23:27 GMT -5
If things fall into place (unexpectedly) and Bernierand Saunders are back along with Bourque and Yandle (although this guy is still more of an unknown wrt what he can contribute unlike Bourque who has played at a high level), then the Wildcats look fairly good "on paper". The base of a solid team is there (being among the top 3 or 4). If Bernier and Saunders aren't back and Bourque (especially) and Yandle are no shows. Moncton is a team that could be struggling to get into the "real" contender status. And to get to the required Memorial Cup level (to avoid public humiliation ), the Wildcats are going to bleed severely in the future..... but it will have to be done. No way to avoid it now. I think most people expect Bernier to go pro...to me it's a no brainer...but it opens up a spot for a top 20 year old forward or d-man. That's not what Nolan is saying. Read today's AN.
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Post by catnut on Jun 21, 2005 7:24:01 GMT -5
Interesting note that in this morning's Acadie Nouvelle, it is mentioned that the return of Bernier, Saunders and Graham is more than probable and that, according to Nolan, all three are seriously interested in coming back to Moncton for the next season.
According to Nolan, the chances of seeing Bourque are excellent. It all depends on the Washington Capitals.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 21, 2005 7:24:22 GMT -5
I think most people expect Bernier to go pro...to me it's a no brainer...but it opens up a spot for a top 20 year old forward or d-man. I think you are right. What do you think the odds are of them keeping Hepditch as one of their overagers to start the year (and possibly trading for an other overager at Xmas when we have a better idea of what we need - i.e. skill, grit, size, speed, forward, defense, goal, etc..)? Skill wise he doesn't seem to belong, but team management and the former coaching regime seem quite high on his leadership contributions... That poses a whole new problem ... we've seen time and time again where trading away a team leader (usually a 20 yr old ... usually a Captain) at Xmas can have a negative affect. If you allow Hepditch to stay for half a year and take on a large leadership role then when he is gone there is a void ... and perhaps some anger. If you are just keeping Hepditch for leadership with the plan of trading/releasing him at Xmas ... then you are better off to not start the year with him at all. Nobody should be kept if they don't figure into the team plans come January ... and May.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 21, 2005 7:34:24 GMT -5
Interesting note that in this morning's Acadie Nouvelle, it is mentioned that the return of Bernier, Saunders and Graham is more than probable and that, according to Nolan, all three are seriously interested in coming back to Moncton for the next season. According to Nolan, the chances of seeing Bourque are excellent. It all depends on the Washington Capitals. That makes no sense. If San Jose doesn't sign Bernier he goes back in the draft and can be drafted then signed by another team...Saunders is in the same situation. The only exception is if one or both are signed and sent back but that also makes little sense. I still don't see why or how Bernier would be back next year.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 21, 2005 7:35:31 GMT -5
I think you are right. What do you think the odds are of them keeping Hepditch as one of their overagers to start the year (and possibly trading for an other overager at Xmas when we have a better idea of what we need - i.e. skill, grit, size, speed, forward, defense, goal, etc..)? Skill wise he doesn't seem to belong, but team management and the former coaching regime seem quite high on his leadership contributions... That poses a whole new problem ... we've seen time and time again where trading away a team leader (usually a 20 yr old ... usually a Captain) at Xmas can have a negative affect. If you allow Hepditch to stay for half a year and take on a large leadership role then when he is gone there is a void ... and perhaps some anger. If you are just keeping Hepditch for leadership with the plan of trading/releasing him at Xmas ... then you are better off to not start the year with him at all. Nobody should be kept if they don't figure into the team plans come January ... and May. Also, if you have so little leadership that you need a Hepditch on a veteran team, the Cats are in deep trouble.
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Post by forrest on Jun 21, 2005 7:48:17 GMT -5
I think you are right. What do you think the odds are of them keeping Hepditch as one of their overagers to start the year (and possibly trading for an other overager at Xmas when we have a better idea of what we need - i.e. skill, grit, size, speed, forward, defense, goal, etc..)? Skill wise he doesn't seem to belong, but team management and the former coaching regime seem quite high on his leadership contributions... That poses a whole new problem ... we've seen time and time again where trading away a team leader (usually a 20 yr old ... usually a Captain) at Xmas can have a negative affect. If you allow Hepditch to stay for half a year and take on a large leadership role then when he is gone there is a void ... and perhaps some anger. If you are just keeping Hepditch for leadership with the plan of trading/releasing him at Xmas ... then you are better off to not start the year with him at all. Nobody should be kept if they don't figure into the team plans come January ... and May. I haven't really thought of that, but I agree with it. Interesting point of vue.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 21, 2005 7:58:37 GMT -5
That poses a whole new problem ... we've seen time and time again where trading away a team leader (usually a 20 yr old ... usually a Captain) at Xmas can have a negative affect. If you allow Hepditch to stay for half a year and take on a large leadership role then when he is gone there is a void ... and perhaps some anger. If you are just keeping Hepditch for leadership with the plan of trading/releasing him at Xmas ... then you are better off to not start the year with him at all. Nobody should be kept if they don't figure into the team plans come January ... and May. Also, if you have so little leadership that you need a Hepditch on a veteran team, the Cats are in deep trouble. If Bernier and Saunders do not return (I'll believe they are coming when I see them) ... who do we have that are obvious leaders ? I realize that some guys will step up and take on a leadership role ... Goulet perhaps ? ... but when you think about it we don't seem to be loaded with leadership beyond our current 20's.
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