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Post by SteveUL on Jun 14, 2007 7:47:30 GMT -5
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Post by catnut on Jun 14, 2007 7:51:50 GMT -5
I was thinking the same. From all accounts, he seems to be a great guy off the ice, hated on the ice by opponents.
He has definitely made a case for himself through his constant hard work.
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Post by john99 on Jun 14, 2007 8:04:20 GMT -5
I am sure they will keep him, he has been working so hard for everything he's accomplished on the team. He is also a great guy of the ice as he has a big heart; I say that as a person that knows him personely.
Way to go Chris!
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Post by Shooooot on Jun 14, 2007 8:07:12 GMT -5
If you made a list of why to keep him vs cut him, the reasons to keep him would be a mile longer than the cut list. It's coincidental that this story appears now because he has been working on this idea for quite a while and as his previous awards would suggest he has always been one of the most active Cat's in the community. I posted my opinion a few months ago that he's a lock to make the team this year...this story simply reminds us of how much he has dedicated himself to hockey and helping others. Nice story for sure.
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Post by curtis on Jun 14, 2007 8:41:07 GMT -5
As nice as his off-ice contributions are, you have to evaluate him for his on-ice perofrmance.
Gaudet wasn't an offensive force, but he contirbuted a lot through face-offs, penalty killing, and often shutting down the other team's top line. Morehouse doesn't bring those things to the table, so his limited ability is difficult to accept as an overager.
I wouldn't be disappointed to see Morehouse on the team, I really like the guy, but I don't think it will happen unless we get good trade offers for the other 20 yo players.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 14, 2007 9:11:16 GMT -5
As nice as his off-ice contributions are, you have to evaluate him for his on-ice perofrmance. Gaudet wasn't an offensive force, but he contirbuted a lot through face-offs, penalty killing, and often shutting down the other team's top line. Morehouse doesn't bring those things to the table, so his limited ability is difficult to accept as an overager. I wouldn't be disappointed to see Morehouse on the team, I really like the guy, but I don't think it will happen unless we get good trade offers for the other 20 yo players. One of the biggest problems we have coming into this season is no player that jumps out as the obvious choice for captain ... and Morehouse is an obvious choice if he is on the team. If you get rid of him I think the team will suffer from a serious lack of leadership. Our 20 yr old group do not inspire anyone from a leadership stand point ... and our 19 yr olds are for the most part 2nd year players. Eagles is the only guy that looks to me to be a guy that should wear a letter (A or C) ... the rest of them I can't say that about ... except for Morehouse.
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Post by Shooooot on Jun 14, 2007 9:12:43 GMT -5
As nice as his off-ice contributions are, you have to evaluate him for his on-ice perofrmance. Gaudet wasn't an offensive force, but he contirbuted a lot through face-offs, penalty killing, and often shutting down the other team's top line. Morehouse doesn't bring those things to the table, so his limited ability is difficult to accept as an overager. I wouldn't be disappointed to see Morehouse on the team, I really like the guy, but I don't think it will happen unless we get good trade offers for the other 20 yo players. I would disagree about his on ice contributions...any decent coach will tell you that you need someone on your team who can energize a team with their on ice effort. He was one of the few who played physical everynight...he also popped in a few goals this year. Don't remember some of his shift where he controlled the puck in the offensive corner for long periods of time? You can't coach the type of effort and grit that he delivers. Teams are made of different role players and his role is no less important than a more skilled offensive player. I think you will see his value to the team confirmed when he sticks with the club. Teams need leaders, grit players...I don't think it matters that he is 20, I can think of a lot of other players I would ditch before him. Winning teams need role players, players with character...just ask the teams that win.
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Post by curtis on Jun 14, 2007 9:23:25 GMT -5
I'm not disputing that he has on-ice value, it's just that we need more productivity out of our limited number of 20 yo slots. I think Gaudet was an exception, and I don't put Morehouse in quite the same category. Having a 20 yo who doesn't play on special teams is a liability (Gaudet was a solid PK guy and could win faceoffs).
As for being captain, I can see Morehouse in that role, but he'll need to cut down on the undisciplined penalties. Point taken, though, there aren't a lot of returning players who could fill the role of captain like Morehouse can.
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Post by forrest on Jun 14, 2007 9:42:05 GMT -5
I've been saying that for a while... We should keep Morehouse and name him captain. I would trade Marquardt, Lincourt, Sniderman, Emanuelle to the highest bidders so we can to keep Morehouse.
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Post by catnut on Jun 14, 2007 9:43:53 GMT -5
It seems we had a similar discussion two years ago regarding Josh Hepditch.
With Flynn in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to see Morehouse play a similar role as Hepditch.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 14, 2007 9:44:25 GMT -5
I've been saying that for a while... We should keep Morehouse and name him captain. I would trade Marquardt, Lincourt, Sniderman, Emanuelle to the highest bidders so we can to keep Morehouse. I'd trade Mangan before Marquardt.
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Post by MacKevin on Jun 14, 2007 9:45:22 GMT -5
It seems we had a similar discussion two years ago regarding Josh Hepditch. With Flynn in charge, I wouldn't be surprised to see Morehouse play a similar role as Hepditch. That's a good point.
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Post by curtis on Jun 14, 2007 9:50:25 GMT -5
Scoring goals wasn't a problem two years ago, though. You can keep a Hepditch in a 20 yo role when you're scoring 5 goals a game anyway.
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Post by MacKevin on Jun 14, 2007 9:54:20 GMT -5
Scoring goals wasn't a problem two years ago, though. You can keep a Hepditch in a 20 yo role when you're scoring 5 goals a game anyway. I would say that scoring goals two years ago was more important.
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Post by Shooooot on Jun 14, 2007 9:54:49 GMT -5
As nice as his off-ice contributions are, you have to evaluate him for his on-ice perofrmance. Gaudet wasn't an offensive force, but he contirbuted a lot through face-offs, penalty killing, and often shutting down the other team's top line. Morehouse doesn't bring those things to the table, so his limited ability is difficult to accept as an overager. I wouldn't be disappointed to see Morehouse on the team, I really like the guy, but I don't think it will happen unless we get good trade offers for the other 20 yo players. One of the biggest problems we have coming into this season is no player that jumps out as the obvious choice for captain ... and Morehouse is an obvious choice if he is on the team. If you get rid of him I think the team will suffer from a serious lack of leadership. Our 20 yr old group do not inspire anyone from a leadership stand point ... and our 19 yr olds are for the most part 2nd year players. Eagles is the only guy that looks to me to be a guy that should wear a letter (A or C) ... the rest of them I can't say that about ... except for Morehouse. SteveUL...you bring up a really important point when considering which 20 year olds to keep. You need to make the decision based on who is returning and what each player brings to the team. I don't think you can simply state that a 20 year old has to be a certain type of player ( ie offensive skilled forward), it really depends on what other players are in the mix and what they bring to the table. You can't judge a players value to a team out of context. That would include as you point out, whether or not we have returning players who are leaders.
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