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Post by jimmy on Jun 5, 2007 11:52:34 GMT -5
Here is a question for someone who may know the inner workings of the NCAA ...
What is the logic in declaring that players who have played major junior are considered to be professionals, and thus have relinquished their NCAA eligibility, but not players who play Canadian Jr A or USHL?
In major junior, players are paid a weekly allowance - I suspect they are as well in the USHL or Junior A.
In major junior, teams pay to billet players ... but so do USHL and Jr A.
In major junior, they play against NHL drafted players - not so much in Jr A, but definitely in the USHL.
Some guys in major junior may have signed NHL contracts - which means major junior kids are competing against professionals - that would be a no-no so far as NCAA is concerned ... are there rules prohibiting signed players from playing USHL? I suppose it would happen quite rarely anyways...
20 year olds in major junior are paid, so I guess they may be viewed as professionals - against whom NCAA eligible guys cannot compete ... but 20 year olds in Jr A and the USHL (think Salvis went down to Lincoln, Nebraska for free?) are also paid handsomely.
So what gives?
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Post by catnut on Jun 5, 2007 12:00:50 GMT -5
With all the annual NCAA discussions, I was wondering the same thing. Maybe someone can enlighten us.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 5, 2007 12:01:35 GMT -5
It's all just a game by the NCAA so they don't lose their biggest stars to major junior. If all the top stars in the NCAA were able to go play major Junior, most would be in the AHL at 20 not NCAA
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Post by catnut on Jun 5, 2007 12:06:22 GMT -5
With all the players positioning themselves for the NCAA, I am surprised the USHL is not stronger than it is now.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 5, 2007 12:08:43 GMT -5
With all the players positioning themselves for the NCAA, I am surprised the USHL is not stronger than it is now. Players going NCAA have a pile of options...including US U17 and 18, Canadian Jr.A leagues(lots of NCAA guys from Ontario BC and Alberta leagues) plus prep schools and other Jr.A leagues in the US.
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Post by MadDog on Jun 6, 2007 14:15:32 GMT -5
It is a real shame! Clearly, QMJHL Players are not paid to play here. They get a stipend whith which to live on and buy gas to get to the rink. And other NCAA players are given exactly the same. I knew a family that billeted an NCAA basketball player during the summer. The universitty set him up in an apartment, and gave him a credit card to furnish the apartment and to buy whatever else he "needed". How is THAT legal?
Like everything in the states, it is going to take a crafty lawyer with a class action lawsuit to get the NCAA to stop screwing over Q players!
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Post by MikeC on Jun 6, 2007 15:29:24 GMT -5
In major junior, players are paid a weekly allowance - I suspect they are as well in the USHL or Junior A. In major junior, teams pay to billet players ... but so do USHL and Jr A. In major junior, they play against NHL drafted players - not so much in Jr A, but definitely in the USHL. Some guys in major junior may have signed NHL contracts - which means major junior kids are competing against professionals - that would be a no-no so far as NCAA is concerned ... are there rules prohibiting signed players from playing USHL? I suppose it would happen quite rarely anyways... 20 year olds in major junior are paid, so I guess they may be viewed as professionals - against whom NCAA eligible guys cannot compete ... but 20 year olds in Jr A and the USHL (think Salvis went down to Lincoln, Nebraska for free?) are also paid handsomely. According to the USHL website, the players not paid any weekly allowance. Signed NHL draft picks are NOT allowed to play because they are considered professionals and it would break NCAA rules. This one kind of confuses me, because the NCAA also considers Major Junior players professionals, and plenty of ex-CHL players have gone to the USHL.
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