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Post by jimmy on May 30, 2007 7:03:34 GMT -5
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us, given we have extra bodies as both overagers and forwards, however a guy on radoter is claiming he has apretty good source that Alexandre Picard-Hooper has been traded to the Cats for our first round pick ... Picard-Hooper is a very good player, and probably a bargain value for a late 1st rounder, but not really a need for the Cats ... could make sense if we have other deals lined up to move some forwards or OAs, potentially recuperating a first round pick elsewhere ... Flynn states in the paper today, for what it is worth, that he isn't planning any trades.
Same source also states that the Drakkar are dealing Alex Lamontagne to the CB Eagles for a 4th.
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Post by Ace on May 30, 2007 7:10:34 GMT -5
From what everyone is saying about the draft talent level dropping off after the 10th pick it may not be a bad idea. If Picard Hooper performs up to expectations of being one of the best centers next season. (ala Dupuis) We may be able to trade him off at the X mas deadline and get more of a return than what we could draft. As long as their isn't a "no trade clause" in place. Could we get more for Hooper than a late first round pick at the X mas deadline??
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Post by CrazyJoeDevola on May 30, 2007 7:36:37 GMT -5
The only way it makes sense is if Moncton are planning/hoping his value will go way up by Xmas, and get more return... but trading away draft picks to take that chance is risky, they may not get a whole lot more, depends on what teams will be looking for an overage forward... you wouldnt want to be stuck with him and lose your draft pick....
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Post by gongshow on May 30, 2007 7:37:12 GMT -5
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us, given we have extra bodies as both overagers and forwards, however a guy on radoter is claiming he has apretty good source that Alexandre Picard-Hooper has been traded to the Cats for our first round pick ... Picard-Hooper is a very good player, and probably a bargain value for a late 1st rounder, but not really a need for the Cats ... could make sense if we have other deals lined up to move some forwards or OAs, potentially recuperating a first round pick elsewhere ... Flynn states in the paper today, for what it is worth, that he isn't planning any trades. Same source also states that the Drakkar are dealing Alex Lamontagne to the CB Eagles for a 4th. Not much sense trading away 1st rnd picks when we're rebuilding and are short on early picks....plus we'll be competing with Hfx,Pei and A-B who will all be looking to improve. I can't see any of our players fetching us a 1st rounder other than the few untouchables(Barberio,Riopel etc...)....besides I thought I read somewhere that Flynn was a strong believer in building through the draft.....wouldn't make much sense to trade for Hooper.
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Post by jimmy on May 30, 2007 8:04:19 GMT -5
The main reason Picard apparently wants out of B-C is for schooling ... apparently he has told them he wants to be in a city where he can attend French university full-time, and apparently has limited their options to Gatineau, Quebec, Rimouski, Moncton, and seems to me one other ... so it is very likely that he would insist on a no trade clause so as not to interfere with his schooling mid-year.
Not having a first round pick would be senseless for the Cats ... the only way I can see this one going down would be if we get Picard for the 15th pick, and get another first round pick somewhere else. Rouyn-Noranda has plenty of young assets already and the #9 overall pick - I thought I read somewhere that Tourigny had hinted that he had an impact 20 year old forward lined up. So, theoretically, if we were sending Marquardt to R-N for the 9th pick, and acquiring Picard-Hooper for the 15th, we would move up in the draft and add a player who is likely to be as good for next season.
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Post by SteveUL on May 30, 2007 8:36:14 GMT -5
The main reason Picard apparently wants out of B-C is for schooling ... apparently he has told them he wants to be in a city where he can attend French university full-time, and apparently has limited their options to Gatineau, Quebec, Rimouski, Moncton, and seems to me one other ... so it is very likely that he would insist on a no trade clause so as not to interfere with his schooling mid-year. Not having a first round pick would be senseless for the Cats ... the only way I can see this one going down would be if we get Picard for the 15th pick, and get another first round pick somewhere else. Rouyn-Noranda has plenty of young assets already and the #9 overall pick - I thought I read somewhere that Tourigny had hinted that he had an impact 20 year old forward lined up. So, theoretically, if we were sending Marquardt to R-N for the 9th pick, and acquiring Picard-Hooper for the 15th, we would move up in the draft and add a player who is likely to be as good for next season. But it still comes down to the idea that we don't need a guy like Picard-Hooper in a year that we are still building ... or at least we don't need a guy like him if it costs us a 1st. IF BC is losing him they are in a very weak bargaining position ... we should be able to get him for a lower pick and throw in Lincourt to take Picard-Hooper's place. BC obviously doesn't want to trade him to a divisional rival when they are trying to contend ... especially to rivals like Quebec and Rimouski.
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Post by MacKevin on May 30, 2007 9:44:50 GMT -5
The main reason Picard apparently wants out of B-C is for schooling ... apparently he has told them he wants to be in a city where he can attend French university full-time, and apparently has limited their options to Gatineau, Quebec, Rimouski, Moncton, and seems to me one other ... so it is very likely that he would insist on a no trade clause so as not to interfere with his schooling mid-year. Not having a first round pick would be senseless for the Cats ... the only way I can see this one going down would be if we get Picard for the 15th pick, and get another first round pick somewhere else. Rouyn-Noranda has plenty of young assets already and the #9 overall pick - I thought I read somewhere that Tourigny had hinted that he had an impact 20 year old forward lined up. So, theoretically, if we were sending Marquardt to R-N for the 9th pick, and acquiring Picard-Hooper for the 15th, we would move up in the draft and add a player who is likely to be as good for next season. But it still comes down to the idea that we don't need a guy like Picard-Hooper in a year that we are still building ... or at least we don't need a guy like him if it costs us a 1st. IF BC is losing him they are in a very weak bargaining position ... we should be able to get him for a lower pick and throw in Lincourt to take Picard-Hooper's place. BC obviously doesn't want to trade him to a divisional rival when they are trying to contend ... especially to rivals like Quebec and Rimouski. I think the points are all valid in that this trade is so out to lunch that it is either not true or there is a bigger plan in place.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on May 30, 2007 10:04:59 GMT -5
The clincher is that above all else the Cats need experience on the blueline a lot more than up front from a 20 year old. Plus they already have 3 skill centermen(Labelle Cameron Mangan) plus Sill who is a hard working 2 way guy.
Unless Mangan and Lincourt are going to be traded, there is no logic at all to that deal.
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Post by mikeb on May 31, 2007 9:18:15 GMT -5
The only way it makes sense is if Moncton are planning/hoping his value will go way up by Xmas, and get more return... but trading away draft picks to take that chance is risky, they may not get a whole lot more, depends on what teams will be looking for an overage forward... you wouldnt want to be stuck with him and lose your draft pick.... Or if he gets injured and is lost for the season.
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Post by doctord on May 31, 2007 12:07:45 GMT -5
From what I here Picard-Hooper is going to Rimouski.....FYI
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Post by Cristobal Huet on May 31, 2007 12:11:14 GMT -5
From what I here Picard-Hooper is going to Rimouski.....FYI Makes a lot more sense than here...but they don't have a 1st rounder.
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Post by Porkchop on Jun 1, 2007 5:57:07 GMT -5
From what I here Picard-Hooper is going to Rimouski.....FYI Makes a lot more sense than here...but they don't have a 1st rounder. It doesn't even make sense there........maybe from a college standpoint for him, but the team is still at least a year away from being a contender.
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