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Post by Penguins23 on Apr 9, 2007 21:24:52 GMT -5
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Post by jimmy on Apr 10, 2007 6:25:15 GMT -5
I have heard of situations like that before ... the flip side of the argument would be the safety of the other kids - if you have one giant who is wiring slapshots off the mask of some 45 pound goalie, it is an issue ... but what is the solution? Do you make the nine year old giant play with and against 10-12 year olds? Then you introduce a physical risk to that kid (maybe lesser since he is probably as big and strong as most kids 2-3 years older), but perhaps more importantly, on a social level, is it fair to the nine year old to expose him to older kids - kind of makes him grow up before his time ...
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 10, 2007 6:28:59 GMT -5
I have heard of situations like that before ... the flip side of the argument would be the safety of the other kids - if you have one giant who is wiring slapshots off the mask of some 45 pound goalie, it is an issue ... but what is the solution? Do you make the nine year old giant play with and against 10-12 year olds? Then you introduce a physical risk to that kid (maybe lesser since he is probably as big and strong as most kids 2-3 years older), but perhaps more importantly, on a social level, is it fair to the nine year old to expose him to older kids - kind of makes him grow up before his time ... There is no slapshots allowed until the peewee level.......according to the article, this kid is 8.....they won't have to worry about slapshots for another 3 or 4 years.....
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Post by tal on Apr 10, 2007 13:59:40 GMT -5
Have seen similar situations locally - this year there was a kid playing peewee rec league in Riverview - 12yo fella must be 6' or a little better, and has a wicked slapshot. I heard parents this year complain that he shouldn't be allowed to play, but, as was pointed out, is it fair to make a kid play with older kids just because he hit his growth spurt earlier than most other kids? I feel for parents worried about their (smaller) kids' safety, but unless the big kid has proven to be aggressive, seems they need to be allowed to play.
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Post by Peabody on Apr 10, 2007 16:21:56 GMT -5
Seems like another mindless decision made to keep a small minority happy. Let him play, no wonder the younger kids think adults are asses. Lets start to get real.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 10, 2007 18:26:29 GMT -5
Seems like another mindless decision made to keep a small minority happy. Let him play, no wonder the younger kids think adults are asses. Lets start to get real. I don't know about mindless ... I think there are a few kids every year that are far advanced from the level they are playing at. My kid played against a few kids that were obviosuly playing at the wrong level ... but they were playing where their age placed them. They had abilities far beyond their age group. These kids weren't being challenged by who they were playing against ... they'd score every shift ... which took the fun out of the game for everybody. Also ... these kids could shoot the puck much harder than the other kids ... and in the early years alot of times the goaltenders are not wearing goalie gear as everybody gets a turn in goal. Kids in intitaion and novice were not wearing the proper gear to be blocking shots with their upper body from these kids ... and yes kids were getting hurt. I understand the issue of having 10 yr olds play against 13 yr olds ... the social issue only ... the physical issue is a non-issue as these kids are physically advanced anyways. These kids need to play against kids that are at their own talent level ... not age group. It challenges that younger player to be better ... something he doesn't get in his own age group.
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Post by MikeC on Apr 10, 2007 18:52:51 GMT -5
I don't know about mindless ... I think there are a few kids every year that are far advanced from the level they are playing at. My kid played against a few kids that were obviosuly playing at the wrong level ... but they were playing where their age placed them. They had abilities far beyond their age group. These kids weren't being challenged by who they were playing against ... they'd score every shift ... which took the fun out of the game for everybody. Also ... these kids could shoot the puck much harder than the other kids ... and in the early years alot of times the goaltenders are not wearing goalie gear as everybody gets a turn in goal. Kids in intitaion and novice were not wearing the proper gear to be blocking shots with their upper body from these kids ... and yes kids were getting hurt. I understand the issue of having 10 yr olds play against 13 yr olds ... the social issue only ... the physical issue is a non-issue as these kids are physically advanced anyways. These kids need to play against kids that are at their own talent level ... not age group. It challenges that younger player to be better ... something he doesn't get in his own age group. There's a difference between allowing a player to play up a level, and forcing a player to move up a level. I don't think any player should be forced to play where they don't want to. Frankly, with today's hockey parents, forcing a kid to play up a level isn't usually the problem, it's the opposite, not allowing them to play up. A lot of parents think they have the next Crosby in their house and everyone else is holding them back. And even if you think the kid should be playing up, I think you'd agree that it's not a decision that should be made in the last month of the season.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 11, 2007 7:04:30 GMT -5
I don't know about mindless ... I think there are a few kids every year that are far advanced from the level they are playing at. My kid played against a few kids that were obviosuly playing at the wrong level ... but they were playing where their age placed them. They had abilities far beyond their age group. These kids weren't being challenged by who they were playing against ... they'd score every shift ... which took the fun out of the game for everybody. Also ... these kids could shoot the puck much harder than the other kids ... and in the early years alot of times the goaltenders are not wearing goalie gear as everybody gets a turn in goal. Kids in intitaion and novice were not wearing the proper gear to be blocking shots with their upper body from these kids ... and yes kids were getting hurt. I understand the issue of having 10 yr olds play against 13 yr olds ... the social issue only ... the physical issue is a non-issue as these kids are physically advanced anyways. These kids need to play against kids that are at their own talent level ... not age group. It challenges that younger player to be better ... something he doesn't get in his own age group. There's a difference between allowing a player to play up a level, and forcing a player to move up a level. I don't think any player should be forced to play where they don't want to. Frankly, with today's hockey parents, forcing a kid to play up a level isn't usually the problem, it's the opposite, not allowing them to play up. A lot of parents think they have the next Crosby in their house and everyone else is holding them back. And even if you think the kid should be playing up, I think you'd agree that it's not a decision that should be made in the last month of the season. With the example of the peewee kid, if he is that developed physically, with a wicked slapshot, he probably should be playing rep hockey and not house league ... hard to say though ... maybe the rest of his game is lacking ... The funny thing is, I bet those who are complaining about him the most, would absolutely love it when he is on their team ... then they wouldn't be nearly as concerned about someone getting hurt ... hypocrisy at its finest ...
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Post by Penguins23 on Apr 19, 2007 14:33:06 GMT -5
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