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Post by Ace on Apr 9, 2007 7:27:54 GMT -5
Here is the link as we will need to draft 2 euros and preferably one impact like 18 or 19 yeat old sniper and hopefu;;y one big (quick) D man. Someone like Suchy in Hal would suit me fine. Can hit hard and doesn't seem slow out there. cdn.nhl.com/futures/cssrankings/euro_skater0107.pdf
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 9, 2007 8:05:39 GMT -5
Here is the link as we will need to draft 2 euros and preferably one impact like 18 or 19 yeat old sniper and hopefu;;y one big (quick) D man. Someone like Suchy in Hal would suit me fine. Can hit hard and doesn't seem slow out there. cdn.nhl.com/futures/cssrankings/euro_skater0107.pdfI agree they need a Euro d-man, but I'd prefer an 18 year old Vishnevsky or Bartulis...a guy that can help replace Welton and MacDonald.
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Post by Ace on Apr 16, 2007 6:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 16, 2007 7:26:02 GMT -5
Certainly an interesting player. We are picking somewhere around 20th (Bathurst's pick) and so the only way you could guarantee that he would be there when we are picking is if RKI throws a pile of money at him and he tells all other teams he won't report to anybody but Moncton. Or ... we could trade up ... not sure how easy that would be to do. It will be interesting with Nevin and our Asst Coach over there at the U-18 ... they get a first hand chance to see these kids play at a high level and to talk to them and their coaches. Something we didn't get to do last year. Not sure why Torchettit didn't go over for a visit also.
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Post by catnut on Apr 16, 2007 7:41:53 GMT -5
It is not very often that Swedish players come to NA to play junior. He might be hard to convince.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 16, 2007 7:56:13 GMT -5
Yeah, Swedes have a nice league at home that is within their reach and pays well.
The best Euros to get are usually Czech's Slovak's or some of the Russian break away republics(Latvia Ukraine Belarus etc). Also some players have come from smaller countries like Norway(Thoresen Jensen) Germany(Schutz) and Denmark(Madsen Trukhno).
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Post by Ace on Apr 16, 2007 8:37:16 GMT -5
In the second link (The Hockey News) in the 4th last paragrph he states that he has been thinking about comming over and playing in the CHL. I am sure he is keeping his options open but this could be someone they are looking at. We can hope anyways.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 16, 2007 8:49:38 GMT -5
It is not very often that Swedish players come to NA to play junior. He might be hard to convince. The ones that have come over have, for the most part, been very good players.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 16, 2007 8:55:10 GMT -5
In the second link (The Hockey News) in the 4th last paragrph he states that he has been thinking about comming over and playing in the CHL. I am sure he is keeping his options open but this could be someone they are looking at. We can hope anyways. Probably a better chance of getting an elite Swedish d-man to NA than an elite goalie or forward ... Sweden is not known for producing lots of NHL d-men (although there are exceptions like Lidstrom), and I think the transition to NA is tougher on a d-man ...
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Post by Ace on Apr 16, 2007 9:28:29 GMT -5
Certainly an interesting player. We are picking somewhere around 20th (Bathurst's pick) and so the only way you could guarantee that he would be there when we are picking is if RKI throws a pile of money at him and he tells all other teams he won't report to anybody but Moncton. Or ... we could trade up ... not sure how easy that would be to do. It will be interesting with Nevin and our Asst Coach over there at the U-18 ... they get a first hand chance to see these kids play at a high level and to talk to them and their coaches. Something we didn't get to do last year. Not sure why Torchettit didn't go over for a visit also. The only team that I can see that may be interested in trading down would be Rim. They have Skokan and Frolik. Would give us a good pick but would they trade with us and what would they want. Maybe Frolik is going to play pro next year? Then I am not sure who would be a good trading partner.
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Post by Bobo_Sinclair on Apr 16, 2007 9:58:57 GMT -5
Well, if we're talking about trading up, might as well take a look at who we could potentially have as trading partners.
-Chicoutimi They have Tulupov on defense as a euro, who will be returning next year as a 19 year old. They have Mikus who will not be returning next year, as he will be 20. So would Chicoutimi trade down 3 spots? I think it's a possibility, and it's the kind of trade that could happen at the very last minute.
-Halifax Voracek will be returning next year, and Suchy will be elligible to return as a 19 year old. However, there are rumors of Halifax trading Suchy away and taking their relatively high euro pick to draft someone better. Doubt there will be a trade here.
-St-John's Kempe will return as a 19 YO in their lineup, and as of right now, they don't have anyone occupying the last available spot. That being said, I have no idea how strongly they're looking for a euro, as their is pretty much no past history to be based on. Any ideas?
-Shawinigan Prokop will be back on defense again this year as a 19 YO. Their other spot is open. Might be interested to trade down if they can get something good, as I don't recall Shawinigan having a great euro drafting history, but I'm not too sure about that.
-Rimouski I honestly believe that Frolik will be back next year. If he is, it's a 50/50 chance that Skokan stays. If they're 100% certain of someone better coming over, they might try to trade him to another team. If they decide to keep him, we might be able to get this pick, but I'm sure there are many teams who want it too. This could be a very mini-bidding war.
-St-John Stich will be back for his 18 YO season and their other spot is currently open. I'm figuring they're going to try to land a good offensive forward with it, and I doubt this pick is open to anyone other then the Sea Dogs.
So, I can see trades potentially happening, in orders of reality (in my opinion):
-Shawinigan -Chicoutimi -Rimouski -Halifax
As for the others, I just don't see it happening.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 16, 2007 10:43:42 GMT -5
Well, if we're talking about trading up, might as well take a look at who we could potentially have as trading partners. - Chicoutimi They have Tulupov on defense as a euro, who will be returning next year as a 19 year old. They have Mikus who will not be returning next year, as he will be 20. So would Chicoutimi trade down 3 spots? I think it's a possibility, and it's the kind of trade that could happen at the very last minute. - Halifax Voracek will be returning next year, and Suchy will be elligible to return as a 19 year old. However, there are rumors of Halifax trading Suchy away and taking their relatively high euro pick to draft someone better. Doubt there will be a trade here. - St-John's Kempe will return as a 19 YO in their lineup, and as of right now, they don't have anyone occupying the last available spot. That being said, I have no idea how strongly they're looking for a euro, as their is pretty much no past history to be based on. Any ideas? - Shawinigan Prokop will be back on defense again this year as a 19 YO. Their other spot is open. Might be interested to trade down if they can get something good, as I don't recall Shawinigan having a great euro drafting history, but I'm not too sure about that. - Rimouski I honestly believe that Frolik will be back next year. If he is, it's a 50/50 chance that Skokan stays. If they're 100% certain of someone better coming over, they might try to trade him to another team. If they decide to keep him, we might be able to get this pick, but I'm sure there are many teams who want it too. This could be a very mini-bidding war. - St-John Stich will be back for his 18 YO season and their other spot is currently open. I'm figuring they're going to try to land a good offensive forward with it, and I doubt this pick is open to anyone other then the Sea Dogs. So, I can see trades potentially happening, in orders of reality (in my opinion): -Shawinigan -Chicoutimi -Rimouski -Halifax As for the others, I just don't see it happening. Good analysis - the only thing you forgot is that where we are looking for two euros, we may also be looking to improve on our second pick (our own first rounder), in which case any of the teams that finished between 5th and 11th overall could also be targets ...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 16, 2007 10:48:07 GMT -5
Well, if we're talking about trading up, might as well take a look at who we could potentially have as trading partners. - Chicoutimi They have Tulupov on defense as a euro, who will be returning next year as a 19 year old. They have Mikus who will not be returning next year, as he will be 20. So would Chicoutimi trade down 3 spots? I think it's a possibility, and it's the kind of trade that could happen at the very last minute. - Halifax Voracek will be returning next year, and Suchy will be elligible to return as a 19 year old. However, there are rumors of Halifax trading Suchy away and taking their relatively high euro pick to draft someone better. Doubt there will be a trade here. - St-John's Kempe will return as a 19 YO in their lineup, and as of right now, they don't have anyone occupying the last available spot. That being said, I have no idea how strongly they're looking for a euro, as their is pretty much no past history to be based on. Any ideas? - Shawinigan Prokop will be back on defense again this year as a 19 YO. Their other spot is open. Might be interested to trade down if they can get something good, as I don't recall Shawinigan having a great euro drafting history, but I'm not too sure about that. - Rimouski I honestly believe that Frolik will be back next year. If he is, it's a 50/50 chance that Skokan stays. If they're 100% certain of someone better coming over, they might try to trade him to another team. If they decide to keep him, we might be able to get this pick, but I'm sure there are many teams who want it too. This could be a very mini-bidding war. - St-John Stich will be back for his 18 YO season and their other spot is currently open. I'm figuring they're going to try to land a good offensive forward with it, and I doubt this pick is open to anyone other then the Sea Dogs. So, I can see trades potentially happening, in orders of reality (in my opinion): -Shawinigan -Chicoutimi -Rimouski -Halifax As for the others, I just don't see it happening. Good analysis - the only thing you forgot is that where we are looking for two euros, we may also be looking to improve on our second pick (our own first rounder), in which case any of the teams that finished between 5th and 11th overall could also be targets ... Yeah, the Bathurst pick is fine, they'd be better off trying to move up from the 40 range to 10-25 range.
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Post by Bobo_Sinclair on Apr 16, 2007 10:59:34 GMT -5
Good analysis - the only thing you forgot is that where we are looking for two euros, we may also be looking to improve on our second pick (our own first rounder), in which case any of the teams that finished between 5th and 11th overall could also be targets ... Thanks. It is true that I completely forgot about the fact that the Wildcats need two euros. That being said, I think it will be a lot harder moving up their 1st and our 2nd pick in a significant way. Now I don't know how much a mid-low 1st round pick is usually worth, but with the low numbers of midget AAA draft picks we have, I have a feeling that moving up both would be more expensive than the Wildcats can afford. As for Ace's suggestion of taking Suchy, although I would be happy with him on Moncton's blueline, I believe they need younger blood out there. I would be looking towards more of an 18 YO on D. Also, Suchy would not be given freely to Moncton. The price could be something like a 3rd round pick (comparable to Prokopetz). Is he worth a 3rd round pick when the Wildcats have such a low number of good picks to go by?
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 16, 2007 11:20:48 GMT -5
Good analysis - the only thing you forgot is that where we are looking for two euros, we may also be looking to improve on our second pick (our own first rounder), in which case any of the teams that finished between 5th and 11th overall could also be targets ... Thanks. It is true that I completely forgot about the fact that the Wildcats need two euros. That being said, I think it will be a lot harder moving up their 1st and our 2nd pick in a significant way. Now I don't know how much a mid-low 1st round pick is usually worth, but with the low numbers of midget AAA draft picks we have, I have a feeling that moving up both would be more expensive than the Wildcats can afford. As for Ace's suggestion of taking Suchy, although I would be happy with him on Moncton's blueline, I believe they need younger blood out there. I would be looking towards more of an 18 YO on D. Also, Suchy would not be given freely to Moncton. The price could be something like a 3rd round pick (comparable to Prokopetz). Is he worth a 3rd round pick when the Wildcats have such a low number of good picks to go by? The Cats already have Bathurst's Euro pick(around 15th) so they would only have to move up with their own pick about 15-20 spots to get 2 blue chip guys.
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