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Post by Ace on Apr 5, 2007 8:20:05 GMT -5
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Post by jimmy on Apr 5, 2007 9:34:05 GMT -5
"Baie-Comeau Drakkar forward Alexandre Picard-Hooper was honored with the Marcel-Robert Trophy, which is awarded to the scholastic player of the year. Along with the Trophy, he received a $1,300 purse from the QMJHL’s major partner, TELUS, as well as the Guy-Lafleur student-athlete bursary worth $6,000. Meanwhile, his teammate, François Bouchard, was awarded the Jean-Béliveau Trophy as the League’s top scorer thanks to his 125-point season."
Bet he will be a big hit in the lockerroom with that new accessory ... the Q really needs to hire a better translator ...
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 9:40:00 GMT -5
Its hard to argue with Jodoin getting it ... he has kept his team at the top all year and had them playing very consistently ... and even had the time to win a gold at the Worlds ... but I'm sure that Torchetti was a close second ... and Martel would get consideration as well.
I guess I look at what Torchetti did as more of an achievement ... keeping in mind that these awards are based on regular season performance only .... taking a rebuilding team to a 4th overall finish is much harder to do than taking a veteran team ... that was predicted to finish 1st overall ... to a 1st overall finish. He simply did what everybody expected he should do ... not that great of an achievement ... but the consistency they showed comes from good coaching.
MVP went to Mathieu Perrault ... not sure I can accept that as a good choice. Perrault is a great player ... but if he was so valuable ... why didn't his team finish higher in the standings ... Beauregard's 71 goals would seem to be a bigger contribution to the Titan "success" (what success ?) than anything else. His team under-achieved and so I wonder what was so valuable about his contribution ? I think that LeTang is clearly the MVP of the Q but probably because he was given other awards he was left off the list on this one ... doesn't seem right to me. I think they just gave it to somebody that didn't already have an award. I'm sure this will draw the ire of Titan fans but I just don't see an MVP being on a 12th place team ... would they have finished lower without him ?
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 5, 2007 9:43:17 GMT -5
Its hard to argue with Jodoin getting it ... he has kept his team at the top all year and had them playing very consistently ... and even had the time to win a gold at the Worlds ... but I'm sure that Torchetti was a close second ... and Martel would get consideration as well. I guess I look at what Torchetti did as more of an achievement ... keeping in mind that these awards are based on regular season performance only .... taking a rebuilding team to a 4th overall finish is much harder to do than taking a veteran team ... that was predicted to finish 1st overall ... to a 1st overall finish. He simply did what everybody expected he should do ... not that great of an achievement ... but the consistency they showed comes from good coaching. MVP went to Mathieu Perrault ... not sure I can accept that as a good choice. Perrault is a great player ... but if he was so valuable ... why didn't his team finish higher in the standings ... Beauregard's 71 goals would seem to be a bigger contribution to the Titan "success" (what success ?) than anything else. His team under-achieved and so I wonder what was so valuable about his contribution ? I think that LeTang is clearly the MVP of the Q but probably because he was given other awards he was left off the list on this one ... doesn't seem right to me. I think they just gave it to somebody that didn't already have an award. I'm sure this will draw the ire of Titan fans but I just don't see an MVP being on a 12th place team ... would they have finished lower without him ? I think the mvp has nothing to do with how high the team he plays on finishes, but rather where would they have finished without him.........Desharnais of Chicoutimi would also be a good candidate for MVP this year.....they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him there.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 9:50:38 GMT -5
Its hard to argue with Jodoin getting it ... he has kept his team at the top all year and had them playing very consistently ... and even had the time to win a gold at the Worlds ... but I'm sure that Torchetti was a close second ... and Martel would get consideration as well. I guess I look at what Torchetti did as more of an achievement ... keeping in mind that these awards are based on regular season performance only .... taking a rebuilding team to a 4th overall finish is much harder to do than taking a veteran team ... that was predicted to finish 1st overall ... to a 1st overall finish. He simply did what everybody expected he should do ... not that great of an achievement ... but the consistency they showed comes from good coaching. MVP went to Mathieu Perrault ... not sure I can accept that as a good choice. Perrault is a great player ... but if he was so valuable ... why didn't his team finish higher in the standings ... Beauregard's 71 goals would seem to be a bigger contribution to the Titan "success" (what success ?) than anything else. His team under-achieved and so I wonder what was so valuable about his contribution ? I think that LeTang is clearly the MVP of the Q but probably because he was given other awards he was left off the list on this one ... doesn't seem right to me. I think they just gave it to somebody that didn't already have an award. I'm sure this will draw the ire of Titan fans but I just don't see an MVP being on a 12th place team ... would they have finished lower without him ? I think the mvp has nothing to do with how high the team he plays on finishes, but rather where would they have finished without him.........Desharnais of Chicoutimi would also be a good candidate for MVP this year.....they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him there. Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ?
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 5, 2007 10:07:59 GMT -5
I think the mvp has nothing to do with how high the team he plays on finishes, but rather where would they have finished without him.........Desharnais of Chicoutimi would also be a good candidate for MVP this year.....they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him there. Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ? I'd say fighting with SJ's and Halifax for 7th.......
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 10:20:39 GMT -5
Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ? I'd say fighting with SJ's and Halifax for 7th....... You were fighting with Halifax for 6th and 7th ... SJ's wasn't in the picture. So Perrault would be the difference beyween 6th and 7th in the conference ? Yeah ... thats worthy of an MVP. Using your logic then ... I'd say we would be down fighting for 6th or 7th with you if we didn't have Andrew MacDonald ... a much bigger drop in the standings attributed to this player. I'm not saying Andrew MacDonald should be MVP ... simply applying your criteria.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 5, 2007 11:21:41 GMT -5
If you use the true definition of MVP, then Desharnais Blanchard and Letang would be 1-2-3 in my opinion.
Perreault and Beauregard are both among the top players, but as Steve said by finishing 13th, how much further down could they have gone without them.
Desharnais made a huge impact as they would have missed the playoffs without him. Blanchard led his team to 2nd(with help from Madsen). Letang made a big difference when he arrived.
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 5, 2007 11:34:54 GMT -5
I think the mvp has nothing to do with how high the team he plays on finishes, but rather where would they have finished without him.........Desharnais of Chicoutimi would also be a good candidate for MVP this year.....they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him there. Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ? Same question except, where would we be with Perrault and a solid/consistent goalie? PS: your jealousy is embarrassing
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 11:39:30 GMT -5
Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ? Same question except, where would we be with Perrault and a solid/consistent goalie? PS: your jealousy is embarrassing Probably competing for 3rd in the division ... but what does that have to do with Perrault being MVP. ? Your final standing is also to blame in large part on defense ... not all the blame can go to goaltending.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Apr 5, 2007 11:40:21 GMT -5
Ok ... so where would Bathurst finish without Perrault ? Same question except, where would we be with Perrault and a solid/consistent goalie? PS: your jealousy is embarrassing That's a good one...if a non-Titan had won you'd be whining about a conspiracy again.
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 5, 2007 11:43:55 GMT -5
Same question except, where would we be with Perrault and a solid/consistent goalie? PS: your jealousy is embarrassing Probably competing for 3rd in the division ... but what does that have to do with Perrault being MVP. ? Your final standing is also to blame in large part on defense ... not all the blame can go to goaltending. Maybe...I'd say we would have been fighting for 1st or 2nd. The fact that Our final standing was as low as it was had nothing to do with Perreault. That's my point and you know i'm right.
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Post by hipsterdoofus on Apr 5, 2007 11:44:45 GMT -5
Same question except, where would we be with Perrault and a solid/consistent goalie? PS: your jealousy is embarrassing That's a good one...if a non-Titan had won you'd be whining about a conspiracy again. No not really, I'm happy he got it, but I was never expecting him to get it.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 11:46:48 GMT -5
Probably competing for 3rd in the division ... but what does that have to do with Perrault being MVP. ? Your final standing is also to blame in large part on defense ... not all the blame can go to goaltending. Maybe...I'd say we would have been fighting for 1st or 2nd. Our final standing had nothing to do with Perreault. That's my point and you know i'm right. I agree with that ... not the "fighting for 1st or 2nd" part though ... and then that begs the question on what criteria he was selected as MVP if his absence wouldn't have made much difference in where you finished in the standings ?
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2007 11:48:05 GMT -5
That's a good one...if a non-Titan had won you'd be whining about a conspiracy again. No not really, I'm happy he got it, but I was never expecting him to get it. If you weren't expecting it ... then you must think others were more deserving ... just like I do.
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