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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 18, 2005 12:25:25 GMT -5
So essentially we give up Prosper for a 7th and the rights to Dupuis. If Dupuis shows up then we also send our 2nd (2006 or 2007 ?). Good deal ... Prosper wasn't making our team this year at 18 ... and we don't need any 19 yr old rookies next year ... if we do we can get them as FA's. Good deal for Prosper too as he'll probably get a chance to get to the Q. Anytime you can get trade value out of a guy that doesn't figure into your team's plans ... you done good. If Dupuis ever comes, he would be worth a 2nd easy...he's an 80-90 point guy on a good team.
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Post by Wild74 on Aug 18, 2005 12:26:45 GMT -5
So essentially we give up Prosper for a 7th and the rights to Dupuis. If Dupuis shows up then we also send our 2nd (2006 or 2007 ?). Good deal ... Prosper wasn't making our team this year at 18 ... and we don't need any 19 yr old rookies next year ... if we do we can get them as FA's. Good deal for Prosper too as he'll probably get a chance to get to the Q. Anytime you can get trade value out of a guy that doesn't figure into your team's plans ... you done good. The way I understood it, is that it was like two deals combined into one - that's what Penguins23 was alluding too. Part 1) We get Dupuis' rights for nothing, but if he shows up we send a 2nd round pick their way. Part 2) They get Prosper's rights for nothing, but if he makes the team, we get a 7th round pick in return. Edit: I think it makes sense for both teams!
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Post by Penguins23 on Aug 18, 2005 12:30:30 GMT -5
So essentially we give up Prosper for a 7th and the rights to Dupuis. If Dupuis shows up then we also send our 2nd (2006 or 2007 ?). Good deal ... Prosper wasn't making our team this year at 18 ... and we don't need any 19 yr old rookies next year ... if we do we can get them as FA's. Good deal for Prosper too as he'll probably get a chance to get to the Q. Anytime you can get trade value out of a guy that doesn't figure into your team's plans ... you done good. The way I understood it, is that it was like two deals combined into one - that's what Penguins23 was alluding too. Part 1) We get Dupuis' rights for nothing, but if he shows up we send a 2nd round pick their way. Part 2) They get Prosper's rights for nothing, but if he makes the team, we get a 7th round pick in return. Edit: I think it makes sense for both teams! Yup thats how I saw it too and makes sense for both teams. More chance of Dupuis reporting here then R-N and Prosper wasn't gonna factor into our plans so good deal for both and I hope both report
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 18, 2005 12:49:45 GMT -5
There is really something wrong with that deal ... even if we have to give up the 2nd that just doesn't seem to be enough for Dupuis. Whatever happened to "paying through the nose" ? As good as that deal is ... it smells funny.
Maybe One of the Irving companies is going to be providing some sort of good or service to the Huskies (or another related company) as part of the deal ... Cavendish supplying them French Fries (for the canteen) at 20 cents on the dollar. Huskies are likely very much in need of cash and a deal like that is an indirect way for them to receive it ... and probably perfectly legal.
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Post by Wild74 on Aug 18, 2005 12:57:50 GMT -5
There is really something wrong with that deal ... even if we have to give up the 2nd that just doesn't seem to be enough for Dupuis. Whatever happened to "paying through the nose" ? As good as that deal is ... it smells funny. Maybe One of the Irving companies is going to be providing some sort of good or service to the Huskies (or another related company) as part of the deal ... Cavendish supplying them French Fries (for the canteen) at 20 cents on the dollar. Huskies are likely very much in need of cash and a deal like that is an indirect way for them to receive it ... and probably perfectly legal. The Sersen deal is somewhat similar. It's an 8th round pick that converts to a 2nd round pick if he reports. R.N. also traded Michaud to Chicoutimi for an 6th round pick. There may be more here, but so far that's it.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 18, 2005 13:15:29 GMT -5
There is really something wrong with that deal ... even if we have to give up the 2nd that just doesn't seem to be enough for Dupuis. Whatever happened to "paying through the nose" ? As good as that deal is ... it smells funny. Maybe One of the Irving companies is going to be providing some sort of good or service to the Huskies (or another related company) as part of the deal ... Cavendish supplying them French Fries (for the canteen) at 20 cents on the dollar. Huskies are likely very much in need of cash and a deal like that is an indirect way for them to receive it ... and probably perfectly legal. They probably figured he had no chance of coming back to RN but 25-30% of going to Moncton...so a 25-30% chance at a 2nd rounder would be better than nothing at all.
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Post by Penguins23 on Aug 18, 2005 13:40:23 GMT -5
There is really something wrong with that deal ... even if we have to give up the 2nd that just doesn't seem to be enough for Dupuis. Whatever happened to "paying through the nose" ? As good as that deal is ... it smells funny. Maybe One of the Irving companies is going to be providing some sort of good or service to the Huskies (or another related company) as part of the deal ... Cavendish supplying them French Fries (for the canteen) at 20 cents on the dollar. Huskies are likely very much in need of cash and a deal like that is an indirect way for them to receive it ... and probably perfectly legal. The Sersen deal is somewhat similar. It's an 8th round pick that converts to a 2nd round pick if he reports. R.N. also traded Michaud to Chicoutimi for an 6th round pick. There may be more here, but so far that's it. Somewhat similar yes but are deal is better because it does not appear that we lose anything if Dupuis doesn't report
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Post by chootoi on Aug 18, 2005 14:37:32 GMT -5
So essentially we give up Prosper for a 7th and the rights to Dupuis. If Dupuis shows up then we also send our 2nd (2006 or 2007 ?). Good deal ... Prosper wasn't making our team this year at 18 ... and we don't need any 19 yr old rookies next year ... if we do we can get them as FA's. Good deal for Prosper too as he'll probably get a chance to get to the Q. Anytime you can get trade value out of a guy that doesn't figure into your team's plans ... you done good. If Dupuis ever comes, he would be worth a 2nd easy...he's an 80-90 point guy on a good team. he had nearly identical numbers as alex bourret last year in every category, except PIMS (where bourret had him doubled) and faceoffs (where dupuis had bourret doubled). overall, if he comes, that's one big hole filled at center.
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Post by mikeb on Aug 19, 2005 7:30:56 GMT -5
So essentially we give up Prosper for a 7th and the rights to Dupuis. If Dupuis shows up then we also send our 2nd (2006 or 2007 ?). Good deal ... Prosper wasn't making our team this year at 18 ... and we don't need any 19 yr old rookies next year ... if we do we can get them as FA's. Good deal for Prosper too as he'll probably get a chance to get to the Q. Anytime you can get trade value out of a guy that doesn't figure into your team's plans ... you done good. If Dupuis ever comes, he would be worth a 2nd easy...he's an 80-90 point guy on a good team. He had 84 points playing in RN for a team that was all offense and no defense. Chances of him making that playing for Nolan and in a division notorious for it's defense is slim. Even with the expansion teams you have to realize that they have Larue and Paiement as the coaches.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 19, 2005 7:57:20 GMT -5
If Dupuis ever comes, he would be worth a 2nd easy...he's an 80-90 point guy on a good team. He had 84 points playing in RN for a team that was all offense and no defense. Chances of him making that playing for Nolan and in a division notorious for it's defense is slim. Even with the expansion teams you have to realize that they have Larue and Paiement as the coaches. He had 84 in 62 games...if he were to come to Moncton and play 70 games at 20, no reason to think he can't put up 90+ points. Even with Paiement Larue etc in the division, there will be a lot of weak teams and some of the worst GAA in the league.
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Post by MikeC on Aug 19, 2005 8:50:36 GMT -5
He had 84 points playing in RN for a team that was all offense and no defense. Chances of him making that playing for Nolan and in a division notorious for it's defense is slim. Even with the expansion teams you have to realize that they have Larue and Paiement as the coaches. He had 84 in 62 games...if he were to come to Moncton and play 70 games at 20, no reason to think he can't put up 90+ points. Even with Paiement Larue etc in the division, there will be a lot of weak teams and some of the worst GAA in the league. We had 2 of the 3 worst teams in the entire league (and another one in the bottom half) last year in our division and the highest scorer in the division had 71 points. If Dupuis shows and can score a PPG, he'll be doing well. If he can crack 80 points, I think it'd be a major success.
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Post by Penguins23 on Aug 19, 2005 9:19:51 GMT -5
Don't forget the new rule changes, depending how that works out for the Q it could make it easier or maybe harder to score 90 + points
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