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Post by Dirty Afanasenkov on Aug 7, 2005 10:17:59 GMT -5
That's exactly what I am saying. I would sooner have two have two Girards then two Marchands. Girard has unquestionalbe work ethics, team focused, toughness for his size, and would do whatever it took to play as a player twice his size. Don't even try to say that Bernier's Inside Out is the same as Marchands and yes when Bernier's gets to the NHL they will get him to stop it too cause the defense at that level will set him on his ass evey time just like is currently happening with Marchand. So you'd take a lineup of Girard's over a line up of Marchands? Wow, I'm sure glad you aren't our GM. I'm not comparing Bernier to Marchand, or Marchand to Bernier, what I'm telling you is even 1st round NHL draft picks try inside outside moves and fail... in the case of Bernier, about 19 out of 20. You seem to have it out for Marchand because of this, along with "being benched", but you fail to remember or willfully neglect to mention the other players who got benched through out the year.
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Post by MacKevin on Aug 7, 2005 10:59:42 GMT -5
Here is my last comment. When you round out a team with non impact players such as Girard and Marchand, then you want a player who understands his part in the team. Girard understood this but Marchand doesn't.
Marchand is trying to play at a level that is unfortunately beyond his grasp. He is too small. Exciting to watch but is non effective which his stats indicate. Also remember he is usually paired with impact players that elevate his +/-. I would sooner have a less talented, grinder, dump it into the corner, meathead that is going to stand in front of the net and get goals. Bergeron would have fit this part perfectly. It didn't surprise me he went first round.
Look at team Canada last year. They dumped in the corner almost every shift and not one of them was scared to stand in front of the net. Sure it’s boring but works.
One thing for sure is that Marchands year is this year. Its do or die. What I would have done starts back at the beginning of the summer. I would have left Bernier unProtected and Bodnarchuk-Marchand Protected. Then I would have, knowing that Bodnarchuk and Marchand are from Halifax, traded them for a every first and third round draft choice that Halifax will have for the next three years. It would have been good for Halifax and would have insured that we are competitive for the next five years. This year will take care of itself with the mercenary players that want to play in the memorial cup only. Marchand is not needed this year which means that his possible impact for the team is next year and possibly the year after.
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Post by Dirty Afanasenkov on Aug 7, 2005 13:46:52 GMT -5
Speaking of Team Canada, I find it ironic you're here dispelling Marchand's talent, yet he was named to the under 18 team. Don't believe Girard was ever named to this team... Guess Team Canada personnel think Marchand is "too small" and "non effective".
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Post by MacKevin on Aug 7, 2005 14:12:18 GMT -5
I guess we'll see.
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Post by duffman on Aug 7, 2005 14:47:14 GMT -5
Buddy you need to shake your head. I think youhave Marchand mixed up with...dube...or maybe you were not at a Cat's game last year. Marchand turned guys inside out all year last year and proved he could stickhandle in a phone booth numerous times. He probably had 3-4 good scoring chances a game..as a rookie. It seems that every team that was looking to deal with Moncton was interseted in getting Marchand he just got selected out of all the U18 players in Canada to play on Team Canada...your bitter little tirade regarding size and guts is looking pretty transparent. Either MArchand stole your girl, or dated your sister or you wish you had his talent...whatever the reason you are looking foolish.
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Post by MacKevin on Aug 7, 2005 15:11:39 GMT -5
Dear Duffman
I checked his stats again just to make sure. I would have expected someone with sooo many scoring chances last year would have a wicked number of assists. But imagine my surprise when I saw that they weren't there. Also I wonder how you know why every other team wanted to trade with us for Marchand. Were you there. Oh yeh, your just retarded.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 7, 2005 15:42:41 GMT -5
Dear Duffman I checked his stats again just to make sure. I would have expected someone with sooo many scoring chances last year would have a wicked number of assists. But imagine my surprise when I saw that they weren't there. Also I wonder how you know why every other team wanted to trade with us for Marchand. Were you there. Oh yeh, your just retarded. I'll make this very simple for you...you're clueless, stop posting about hockey and making yourself look like a knob.
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Post by Dirty Afanasenkov on Aug 7, 2005 15:46:45 GMT -5
mackevin, no sense hurling petty insults like the last line of your last thread. Keep it hockey.
Marchand did have quite a few disallowed goals, (3 I think plus multiple goal posts). Interesting to note, he's got 5 PP goals as well. Wonder how many of those were from him being parked by the net?
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Post by MacKevin on Aug 7, 2005 17:55:56 GMT -5
I guess we will see.
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Post by MikeC on Aug 7, 2005 18:44:03 GMT -5
One thing for sure is that Marchands year is this year. Its do or die. What I would have done starts back at the beginning of the summer. I would have left Bernier unProtected and Bodnarchuk-Marchand Protected. Then I would have, knowing that Bodnarchuk and Marchand are from Halifax, traded them for a every first and third round draft choice that Halifax will have for the next three years. It would have been good for Halifax and would have insured that we are competitive for the next five years. This year will take care of itself with the mercenary players that want to play in the memorial cup only. Marchand is not needed this year which means that his possible impact for the team is next year and possibly the year after. This doesn't make any sense from your point of view. If Marchand is such a terrible little player, why on earth would Halifax give up 3 first rounders and 3 second rounders to get him (and Bodnarchuk)? Face it, Marchand is one of the best U18 players in Canada, and Wildcats fans should be happy to have him. As for his characther, here is a quote from the Daily News in Halifax: "As for Marchand, you could hear Camp smile when he described the Moncton Wildcats player. “He’s a high-energy guy who’s hard-working all the time, and he’s had a very industrious week,” Camp said with a chuckle. He likes that Marchand can play both wings, and expects he’ll see some time penalty-killing." When he's scoring 90+ points at 19, try to have a chuckle remembering the time you said you'd rather have a Girard than a Marchand.
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Post by MacKevin on Aug 7, 2005 19:07:33 GMT -5
I hope your right.
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Post by duffman on Aug 8, 2005 9:23:51 GMT -5
Dear Duffman I checked his stats again just to make sure. I would have expected someone with sooo many scoring chances last year would have a wicked number of assists. But imagine my surprise when I saw that they weren't there. Also I wonder how you know why every other team wanted to trade with us for Marchand. Were you there. Oh yeh, your just retarded. I You haven't made a post based on any fact. Marchand had 29 points in 61 games getting limited icetime. Ya those stats are terrible. I did not see th estat for missed opportunities can you please show me wher his goalposts and fanned on shots on the wing or where he couldn't get the puck over the goalie when he had him out of position etc are. You know things that veterans and guys with more experience are able to do. You still have not been able to address how such a small untalented hockey player was able to beat out all the other U18 hockey players in Canada to get a spot on that team. Do you have an opinion on that? You still are unable to explain why so many other teams came looking for Marchand...any opinion on that? No I was not there but that information was easily available for anyone that can read in the paper...when Nolan said that Marchands name came up in every trade offer sent the Cat's way and that he fely he better actually see the kid play since everyone was interested in obtaining him. Make a post about hockey...something other than he is to small and I hope you are right...you got anything...knob?
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Post by blackice on Aug 8, 2005 9:28:11 GMT -5
First post was placed in the wrong area. I think that Blanchette should be added to the list he has been on a mission since not being protected. He was seen playing in the Top Gun League in Mass, which is comprised of NHL AHL and ECHL players. He has been training with a title fighter all summer and is up to 220 pounds.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 8, 2005 9:42:01 GMT -5
I'll make this very simple for you...you're clueless, stop posting about hockey and making yourself look like a knob. You haven't made a post based on any fact. Marchand had 29 points in 61 games getting limited icetime. Ya those stats are terrible. I did not see th estat for missed opportunities can you please show me wher his goalposts and fanned on shots on the wing or where he couldn't get the puck over the goalie when he had him out of position etc are. You know things that veterans and guys with more experience are able to do. You still have not been able to address how such a small untalented hockey player was able to beat out all the other U18 hockey players in Canada to get a spot on that team. Do you have an opinion on that? You still are unable to explain why so many other teams came looking for Marchand...any opinion on that? Make a post about hockey...something other than he is to small and I hope you are right...you got anything...knob? Why was that aimed at me?
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Post by Dirty Afanasenkov on Aug 8, 2005 9:58:47 GMT -5
You haven't made a post based on any fact. Marchand had 29 points in 61 games getting limited icetime. Ya those stats are terrible. I did not see th estat for missed opportunities can you please show me wher his goalposts and fanned on shots on the wing or where he couldn't get the puck over the goalie when he had him out of position etc are. You know things that veterans and guys with more experience are able to do. You still have not been able to address how such a small untalented hockey player was able to beat out all the other U18 hockey players in Canada to get a spot on that team. Do you have an opinion on that? You still are unable to explain why so many other teams came looking for Marchand...any opinion on that? Make a post about hockey...something other than he is to small and I hope you are right...you got anything...knob? Why was that aimed at me? I don't think it was, Duffy just quoted your post as well.
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