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Post by Snowball on Jun 28, 2005 10:07:21 GMT -5
Can someone please tell Mr. Nolan that he accepted a coaching position with the Wildcats and not the Beavers. What's all these 19 year old free agent signings, who played Junior A last year. If by 19 your still playing Jr A, I don't think you can play on a Memorial Cup team. And if he does realize that he's coaching the Wildcats, tell him its for real, not a fantasy league. He's all happy about signing superstars that plan on playing US College. We need a good team on ice, not on paper. Paper teams don't win Memorial Cups.
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Post by chootoi on Jun 28, 2005 10:18:06 GMT -5
just cause they're signing these guys doesn't mean they'll all be on the final roster. you're allowed something like 20 FA's in camp. as i said in another thread, if we can get 1 or 2 pluggers who can make a difference, fill their roles, and win us some games, i don't care if their last team was the Murray Corner Honkers.
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Post by cbtitan on Jun 28, 2005 11:15:35 GMT -5
as i said in another thread, if we can get 1 or 2 pluggers who can make a difference, fill their roles, and win us some games, i don't care if their last team was the Murray Corner Honkers. How can you expect 1 or 2 Junior A pluggers to make a difference, notwithstanding winning games for you on a Mem Cup team? This whole deal tells me that Nolan is getting desperate to fill some voids... At least the Titans are looking at 17 and 18 YOs FA who could develop down the road....At 19 they are a 1 shot deals...
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Post by Snowball on Jun 28, 2005 11:46:22 GMT -5
My point exactly. I'm not bashing Jr A. These guys are real good hockey players, most of them are above average. However, they are not quite ready for a Memorial Cup, that's why they play Jr A in their own province. If the 20 something teams in the WHL don't want you, maybe we shouldn't want them either. We might get lucky and land a superstar who played Jr A, but Mr. Nolan has to build a team on guys that performed in the past.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 28, 2005 12:00:42 GMT -5
as i said in another thread, if we can get 1 or 2 pluggers who can make a difference, fill their roles, and win us some games, i don't care if their last team was the Murray Corner Honkers. How can you expect 1 or 2 Junior A pluggers to make a difference, notwithstanding winning games for you on a Mem Cup team? This whole deal tells me that Nolan is getting desperate to fill some voids... At least the Titans are looking at 17 and 18 YOs FA who could develop down the road....At 19 they are a 1 shot deals... It's called depth ... no one expects any of the 19 year old free agents to play on the first 2 lines. But we are hosting the Memorial Cup, which means Nolan is going to expect everyone to be able to chip in this year... he said as much in this morning's paper. If (key word) the 19 year old FAs are better than some of our young prospects right now, they will likely make the team and play on the 4th line or as spares... we will not be looking to stock our back end of the team with unprovens. We give up nothing to bring these guys in, if they suck we will simply send them home. IMO, the FA signings are nothing to get excited over one way or another, they cost nothing, if they don't work out so be it... Why would anyone want a 17 year old FA anyways btitan? If they were any good at all, why not just draft them since it was their draft year... maybe the 19 year old is a late bloomer who can play a role at the major junior level, be it enforcer, energy guy, faceoff specialist, PK, etc...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 28, 2005 12:03:28 GMT -5
Can someone please tell Mr. Nolan that he accepted a coaching position with the Wildcats and not the Beavers. What's all these 19 year old free agent signings, who played Junior A last year. If by 19 your still playing Jr A, I don't think you can play on a Memorial Cup team. And if he does realize that he's coaching the Wildcats, tell him its for real, not a fantasy league. He's all happy about signing superstars that plan on playing US College. We need a good team on ice, not on paper. Paper teams don't win Memorial Cups. Where do you think Yetman was before he joined the Cats? Most of these guys are being brought in as role players(read scrappers and bangers), I don't see how them playing Jr.A last year is a problem. Circelli Ruggiero and O'Connor were also 19 year old Jr.A FA's and they turned out pretty good.
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Post by chootoi on Jun 28, 2005 12:21:15 GMT -5
How can you expect 1 or 2 Junior A pluggers to make a difference, notwithstanding winning games for you on a Mem Cup team? This whole deal tells me that Nolan is getting desperate to fill some voids... At least the Titans are looking at 17 and 18 YOs FA who could develop down the road....At 19 they are a 1 shot deals... i agree they most likely aren't up to major junior callibre, but maybe they can light some fires under some asses (ie: bruce graham). i'm not saying they'll be there to take his spot but we all know the more motivation a guy like graham can get, the better. i didn't say i was expecting anything. if it happens that one makes the 3rd or 4th line, GREAT, the WC management will look like smart folks for once. if none of them can cut it, no biggie, not much was expected from them anyway. they don't have much to lose. it's not like sidney crosby is going to become a free agent anytime soon, so these are the best guys available that nolan wants. that's the key. RKI gave nolan the power to build a team the way he wants, and he's doing it. he's won before. i'm sure he's been in this position before. as for them being 19 year olds... i think most people know (around here anyways) that this entire season is a one-shot-deal for most people involved, from the players to the management, to the fans. the next few years we'll be in major rebuild mode anyways so why not go for the gusto when you have a guranteed spot in the tourney. my $0.02
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Post by PotatoesRGoodYum on Jun 28, 2005 12:37:27 GMT -5
Only problem with that is how it may affect the young kids who played regular minutes last year and in some cases real strong minutes and now this year they appear to be being bumped off the team completely or into total fringe player mode.. I'm speaking of the Marchands, Adams and Donovans
You saw what happened with a deep Moosehead team this year and some very malcontent 17 year old kids ... you guys could be setting yourselves up for the same situation
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 28, 2005 12:39:15 GMT -5
as i said in another thread, if we can get 1 or 2 pluggers who can make a difference, fill their roles, and win us some games, i don't care if their last team was the Murray Corner Honkers. How can you expect 1 or 2 Junior A pluggers to make a difference, notwithstanding winning games for you on a Mem Cup team? This whole deal tells me that Nolan is getting desperate to fill some voids... At least the Titans are looking at 17 and 18 YOs FA who could develop down the road....At 19 they are a 1 shot deals... Who are your 17 yr old FA's ? And ... why were they past over by every team in the most recent draft of the OHL or WHL or whatever region they come from ? A 17 yr old FA I guess would be equivalent to a 16th round draft pick ... yeah thats what we need on a Mem Cup team. Pssst Btitan .. this IS a "one shot deal" ... we aren't hosting the Mem Cup again in any of the next 12 years ... so 17 yr old FA's aren't a target for us ... mature players are. See the difference lardass ?
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Post by chootoi on Jun 28, 2005 13:09:23 GMT -5
Only problem with that is how it may affect the young kids who played regular minutes last year and in some cases real strong minutes and now this year they appear to be being bumped off the team completely or into total fringe player mode.. I'm speaking of the Marchands, Adams and Donovans You saw what happened with a deep Moosehead team this year and some very malcontent 17 year old kids ... you guys could be setting yourselves up for the same situation it's the memorial cup man, you do what you gotta do to win. would you rather contend for a championship every few years and consequently put up with the rebuilding years in between, or have a mid-pack team every year that never has a shot. if you prefer the latter, more power to you, cause i wouldn't.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 28, 2005 13:11:32 GMT -5
Only problem with that is how it may affect the young kids who played regular minutes last year and in some cases real strong minutes and now this year they appear to be being bumped off the team completely or into total fringe player mode.. I'm speaking of the Marchands, Adams and Donovans You saw what happened with a deep Moosehead team this year and some very malcontent 17 year old kids ... you guys could be setting yourselves up for the same situation You bring up a good point. Donovan and Adam aren't young kids though, both are 19 year olds this season - and I see nothing wrong with making them earn their spot on the team, if a free agent can come to camp and out play them, why not? Remember both of those guys were late draft picks who overachieved to make the team. But it will be interesting to see what role is available for the likes of Marchand, Samson, Demers, Chabot, and Tanguay.
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Post by PotatoesRGoodYum on Jun 28, 2005 13:15:37 GMT -5
and if you don't win?
i'm just saying you could alienate your top young prospects.. that's all.. if it's worth the risk then go for it... i'd rather have some 18-19 year olds who look like they can contribute on paper tho not these names you guys are showing
but hey i'm not Billy.. i can't predict the future nor am i an expert on teams i don't follow real closely and I won't pretend to be one.. good luck.. i actually mean it
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Post by Score on Jun 28, 2005 13:43:17 GMT -5
Can someone please tell Mr. Nolan that he accepted a coaching position with the Wildcats and not the Beavers. What's all these 19 year old free agent signings, who played Junior A last year. If by 19 your still playing Jr A, I don't think you can play on a Memorial Cup team. And if he does realize that he's coaching the Wildcats, tell him its for real, not a fantasy league. He's all happy about signing superstars that plan on playing US College. We need a good team on ice, not on paper. Paper teams don't win Memorial Cups. Where do you think Yetman was before he joined the Cats? . Cape Breton.
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Post by catnut on Jun 28, 2005 13:47:35 GMT -5
Where do you think Yetman was before he joined the Cats? . Cape Breton. Actually, no. He had been sent to Jr. A.
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Post by Score on Jun 28, 2005 13:51:20 GMT -5
Actually, no. He had been sent to Jr. A. I know, he played here. Just messing around. ;D
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