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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 7:21:46 GMT -5
The Cats have a pretty good group of 1989's...Riopel Labelle Lessard Cameron Pianosi Martikainen Igor Voroshilov plus Brenton and Boyle should contribute. Add in Eagles Smith.
It's at least a start to the rebuilding that wasn't there in 2000-2001. The 06-07 trade period and 2007 draft will be very important also...
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Post by Ace on Jun 29, 2006 7:38:37 GMT -5
Now if Bourdon comes back he will obviously be traded but what about A Mac, Welton, Belanger, or Gaudet for that matter. Bourdon will obviously bring a good return. I am thinking a good young player and maybe two draft picks? What will Welton or D Mac bring and is there a market for Belanger? And will they keep Gaudet?
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 7:45:21 GMT -5
Now if Bourdon comes back he will obviously be traded but what about A Mac, Welton, Belanger, or Gaudet for that matter. Bourdon will obviously bring a good return. I am thinking a good young player and maybe two draft picks? What will Welton or D Mac bring and is there a market for Belanger? And will they keep Gaudet? I think there has to be a balance between rebuilding and having a team that doesn't get blown out of the rink each night. If they can add a couple of decent FA's like last year, trading Bourdon and possibly Welton A.Mac or Gaudet could help them finish on a contender plus get good young players back. Bourdon is the obvious one to be on the block if he is back...he should get a 1st rounder plus a good young player that can step in plus maybe an option on a 20 year old for 07-08(players coming for a 3rd or 4th at the 2007 draft). A.Mac might not be tradeable because of his education package, but Welton could bring a good 17 year old d-man back. Gaudet I would be careful before trading him, I think he exemplifies what you want your young players to do on a daily basis...hard work, heads up play and a very good attitude...plus he's won a championship. It's a delicate balance between getting good assets in the future while still having good leaders for the kids to follow and try and emulate next year.
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Post by Ace on Jun 29, 2006 8:06:05 GMT -5
I think it would be good to keep Gaudet for his work ethic and his leadership abilities. He can help the younger players along for the future.
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Post by falcon on Jun 29, 2006 8:16:47 GMT -5
The Cats have a pretty good group of 1989's...Riopel Labelle Lessard Cameron Pianosi Martikainen Igor Voroshilov plus Brenton and Boyle should contribute. Add in Eagles Smith. It's at least a start to the rebuilding that wasn't there in 2000-2001. The 06-07 trade period and 2007 draft will be very important also... How many games have these players played in the "Q"? If btitan posted this you would be all over him. None of these players except Riopel are blue chip prospects and you have no 1990's. It is a start and nothing more, you have a valuable asset in Bourdon to move but other than that I wouldn't expect the kind of selloff and return you rec'd the last time around. The value for 20's is questionable right now as well given the numbers.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 8:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by jimmy on Jun 29, 2006 8:25:01 GMT -5
Don't forget the three '89 Americans we have the rights too as well, odds are decent at least one of them will surface here at some point...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 8:25:16 GMT -5
The Cats have a pretty good group of 1989's...Riopel Labelle Lessard Cameron Pianosi Martikainen Igor Voroshilov plus Brenton and Boyle should contribute. Add in Eagles Smith. It's at least a start to the rebuilding that wasn't there in 2000-2001. The 06-07 trade period and 2007 draft will be very important also... How many games have these players played in the "Q"? If btitan posted this you would be all over him. None of these players except Riopel are blue chip prospects and you have no 1990's. It is a start and nothing more, you have a valuable asset in Bourdon to move but other than that I wouldn't expect the kind of selloff and return you rec'd the last time around. The value for 20's is questionable right now as well given the numbers. Labelle and Martikanen are blue chips also. Labelle was 3rd in MAAA scoring last year and should develop into a frontline Q scorer in time. Martikanen is rated to go in the 2nd round of the NHL draft. Nobody is saying they WILL be good players, but there is solid potential, and as I said earlier, a better base to start with than in 2000-2001. Just like with Voracek in Halifax there is no guarantees attatched to potential.
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Post by falcon on Jun 29, 2006 8:27:28 GMT -5
Minivan was a top pairing D on his team prior to BAT drafting. I am sure this is a better pick but you get my point, nothing to lose for the Cats if he doesn't contribute. You will get a guy next year with a high pick.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 8:41:02 GMT -5
Minivan was a top pairing D on his team prior to BAT drafting. I am sure this is a better pick but you get my point, nothing to lose for the Cats if he doesn't contribute. You will get a guy next year with a high pick. Minivan did not play in the U18 tournament as a 16 year old and put up decent numbers. I'm not predicting him to be a star, but he is not a dud either.
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Post by falcon on Jun 29, 2006 8:52:55 GMT -5
How many games have these players played in the "Q"? If btitan posted this you would be all over him. None of these players except Riopel are blue chip prospects and you have no 1990's. It is a start and nothing more, you have a valuable asset in Bourdon to move but other than that I wouldn't expect the kind of selloff and return you rec'd the last time around. The value for 20's is questionable right now as well given the numbers. Labelle and Martikanen are blue chips also. Labelle was 3rd in MAAA scoring last year and should develop into a frontline Q scorer in time. Martikanen is rated to go in the 2nd round of the NHL draft. Nobody is saying they WILL be good players, but there is solid potential, and as I said earlier, a better base to start with than in 2000-2001. Just like with Voracek in Halifax there is no guarantees attatched to potential. Which scouting service has Martikanen rated in the 2nd round? I am not saying he is a good or bad pick but you should wait until you see him before forecasting greatness, or at least produce 3rd party creible info to support your statement (at least in the case of Voracek lots of sources say he's a blue chip prospect). Labelle was a 16 playing with a poor class of 15 y/o forward in MAAA, I doubt he is blue chip. Again if Bttian posted the same comment you would carve him a new asshole
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 9:05:48 GMT -5
Labelle and Martikanen are blue chips also. Labelle was 3rd in MAAA scoring last year and should develop into a frontline Q scorer in time. Martikanen is rated to go in the 2nd round of the NHL draft. Nobody is saying they WILL be good players, but there is solid potential, and as I said earlier, a better base to start with than in 2000-2001. Just like with Voracek in Halifax there is no guarantees attatched to potential. Which scouting service has Martikanen rated in the 2nd round? I am not saying he is a good or bad pick but you should wait until you see him before forecasting greatness, or at least produce 3rd party creible info to support your statement (at least in the case of Voracek lots of sources say he's a blue chip prospect). Labelle was a 16 playing with a poor class of 15 y/o forward in MAAA, I doubt he is blue chip. Again if Bttian posted the same comment you would carve him a new asshole "The reports that we received on him were real solid," said Flynn. "The Red Line Report has him ranked No. 55 in the world for the 2007 NHL draft so that's middle of the second round. We've spoken with the boy and he will definitely come." "Positively dynamic skater, has tremendous breakaway speed, always wants the puck. Plays up-tempo game with high energy at all times. Not afraid to get his nose dirty. One question mark is that he doesn't use his blazing speed to beat defencemen one-on-one. Often just winds up and fires a 55-foot slapper. Is it a lack of offence instinct? Or, is he not able to handle the puck at top speed?" How is it a weak crop of 15 year old forwards when Cornet is the 1st 15 year old to lead the league in scoring since PM Bouchard? Regardless, Labelle was 3rd in scoring and there were some good players in that league...and Quebec MAAA is a strong league as in Quebec the vast majority of players play MAAA.
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Post by falcon on Jun 29, 2006 9:11:14 GMT -5
Which scouting service has Martikanen rated in the 2nd round? I am not saying he is a good or bad pick but you should wait until you see him before forecasting greatness, or at least produce 3rd party creible info to support your statement (at least in the case of Voracek lots of sources say he's a blue chip prospect). Labelle was a 16 playing with a poor class of 15 y/o forward in MAAA, I doubt he is blue chip. Again if Bttian posted the same comment you would carve him a new asshole "The reports that we received on him were real solid," said Flynn. "The Red Line Report has him ranked No. 55 in the world for the 2007 NHL draft so that's middle of the second round. We've spoken with the boy and he will definitely come." "Positively dynamic skater, has tremendous breakaway speed, always wants the puck. Plays up-tempo game with high energy at all times. Not afraid to get his nose dirty. One question mark is that he doesn't use his blazing speed to beat defencemen one-on-one. Often just winds up and fires a 55-foot slapper. Is it a lack of offence instinct? Or, is he not able to handle the puck at top speed?" How is it a weak crop of 15 year old forwards when Cornet is the 1st 15 year old to lead the league in scoring since PM Bouchard? Regardless, Labelle was 3rd in scoring and there were some good players in that league...and Quebec MAAA is a strong league as in Quebec the vast majority of players play MAAA. Number 55 is late 2nd round really, and redline is crap for Euro rankings (except when ranking Voracek high) Cornet is a solid blue chip 1990, otherwisw compared to other years the MAAA in Quebec was weak for forwards, you said it yourself for shits sake. Labelle is a good player, I don't think he is described a bluechip. The Finn, we will see in a few months (you have a reasonable track record in the Euro so he is likely a solid pick)
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Post by cbtitan on Jun 29, 2006 12:27:13 GMT -5
The Wildcats are about at the same stage as the 2003-2004 Titan after losing Gervais and Bergeron. However Moncton does not have a potential Mathieu Roy or Thomas Beauregard lined up yet....may be Cameron??
All in all it is gonna be a good two years process...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 29, 2006 13:14:07 GMT -5
The Wildcats are about at the same stage as the 2003-2004 Titan after losing Gervais and Bergeron. However Moncton does not have a potential Mathieu Roy or Thomas Beauregard lined up yet....may be Cameron?? All in all it is gonna be a good two years process... It will be a tough few years, though smart trades and getting a few FA or NCAA(Danis-Pepin Strait or 2006 picks) guys showing up could accelerate the process. With Riopel in nets, that position appears to be pretty solid. They will need to rebuild the defense via trades and the draft. Up front, there is a decent core of 1989 forwards, a few more will have to be added.
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