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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 11:24:06 GMT -5
TO me Nolan did the right thing in pulling off this trade for Tordjman. No one out there really know who or who not was asking about Tordjman. Maybe no one was but what if one of the top teams goalies got hurt and were out for a length of period of time someone might have gone after him and we would be out of luck with a top rated goalie which I think will bring us a lot further than Blanchard would have. I did some checking into games in which Tordjman has played (TO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS) and found out that he has been First Star 4 time this year and 2nd Star in 6 games so this tell me this guy can win games on his own. Everyone is talking about giving away the farm well on this team right now there not many that will be here next year so its not as if there much to give away. To me Nolan did the right thing....... Blanchard never has impressed me he was giving the role as #1 and to me he been just AVERAGE. Average will not cut it . To me we should be looking at winning the Q first then go to the memorial cup looking to win.... I as one do not want to go to the memorial cup as a free bee let win it all and show we deserve to be there but let not look to far ahead let win the Q league first.
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Post by hockey29 on Dec 23, 2005 11:37:53 GMT -5
TO me Nolan did the right thing in pulling off this trade for Tordjman. No one out there really know who or who not was asking about Tordjman. Maybe no one was but what if one of the top teams goalies got hurt and were out for a length of period of time someone might have gone after him and we would be out of luck with a top rated goalie which I think will bring us a lot further than Blanchard would have. I did some checking into games in which Tordjman has played (TO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS) and found out that he has been First Star 4 time this year and 2nd Star in 6 games so this tell me this guy can win games on his own. Everyone is talking about giving away the farm well on this team right now there not many that will be here next year so its not as if there much to give away. To me Nolan did the right thing....... Blanchard never has impressed me he was giving the role as #1 and to me he been just AVERAGE. Average will not cut it . To me we should be looking at winning the Q first then go to the memorial cup looking to win.... I as one do not want to go to the memorial cup as a free bee let win it all and show we deserve to be there but let not look to far ahead let win the Q league first. Agree 100%. Win Q First
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Post by bayboy on Dec 23, 2005 11:49:33 GMT -5
fans are fickle, ;D ;D
if we go good in the playoffs, and win the cup or make decent show in it, we'll say he did a good job but if the wheels fall off after xmas, then he will be criticized for what he did or did not do in the trade period.
all fans have a favorite player, we all have opinions, whats important here is to remember that each of our opinions plus a $1.50 will get us a coffee almost anywhere.
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Post by chootoi on Dec 23, 2005 12:06:46 GMT -5
good trade. we added the elite goalie we needed without taking anything away from our immediate lineup. i say how is that not good? forget the picks for a minute, forget next year - demers was not playing - he was a 7-8 defenceman, it would have been nice to keep blanchard until the draft but that's life. we still have marchand, still have samson, chabot etc... (for the time being). i see it like this:
Tordjman > Blanchard (NOW, who cares about later, we'll be rebuilding anyways even with blanchard) 3rd = Demers (i think demers would've got a high 3rd rd. pick elsewhere) 7th < 2nd (obviously) and we gave them a late 3rd
to address what was perhaps our biggest concern, i'd say we made out alright. hardly "taken to the cleaners".
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 12:09:26 GMT -5
totally agreed
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Dec 23, 2005 12:11:31 GMT -5
good trade. we added the elite goalie we needed without taking anything away from our immediate lineup. i say how is that not good? forget the picks for a minute, forget next year - demers was not playing - he was a 7-8 defenceman, it would have been nice to keep blanchard until the draft but that's life. we still have marchand, still have samson, chabot etc... (for the time being). i see it like this: Tordjman > Blanchard (NOW, who cares about later, we'll be rebuilding anyways even with blanchard) 3rd = Demers (i think demers would've got a high 3rd rd. pick elsewhere) 7th < 2nd (obviously) and we gave them a late 3rd to address what was perhaps our biggest concern, i'd say we made out alright. hardly "taken to the cleaners". Unless I misread the trade, it was... Blanchard Demers 2nd 3rd for Tordjman 3rd 6th 7th There are 3rds on both sides that pretty much even each other out.
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Post by chootoi on Dec 23, 2005 12:16:11 GMT -5
on the Q site it doesn't say we're getting a 6th. i included the two 3rds in my little layout thing there. i was trying to show that the trade looks pretty even all the way through and we gave them a extra 3rd - although looking at it now it is a bit confusing
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 12:17:57 GMT -5
Was waiting for ya billy..... yes the draft pick were there but I would be will to trade them for a top goalie For a Crapy team he received 4 first star and 6 SEcond STar to me he stole alot of games which we need badly to win the Q FIRST
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Dec 23, 2005 12:20:53 GMT -5
Was waiting for ya billy..... yes the draft pick were there but I would be will to trade them for a top goalie For a Crapy team he received 4 first star and 6 SEcond STar to me he stole alot of games which we need badly to win the Q FIRST Nobody is saying Tordjman is not a good goalie...but he is 20 and only has 4-5 months of hockey left...and this is a bad market for goalies this year, every contender has 1 or even 2 veteran goalies(Chicoutimi has 3).
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 12:35:20 GMT -5
Good Point. We will just have to hope Tordjman does not get hurt. To me I think we keep Sniderman as a back up and say by by Blouin
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 12:35:46 GMT -5
that bye bye ...............he he
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Dec 23, 2005 12:57:05 GMT -5
Good Point. We will just have to hope Tordjman does not get hurt. To me I think we keep Sniderman as a back up and say by by Blouin If they are willing to give that much for Tordjman, might as well trade a pick for a quality back up(Roberge Chiasson Laliberte Davenport etc)
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 13:07:57 GMT -5
hey if we were able to land Roberge as a back up without costing us to much I would do it because I do not have any confidence in Blouin or Sniderman. To me Ropel will be getting lots of work next year and maybe Roberge would be a good mix with him
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Dec 23, 2005 13:11:01 GMT -5
hey if we were able to land Roberge as a back up without costing us to much I would do it because I do not have any confidence in Blouin or Sniderman. To me Ropel will be getting lots of work next year and maybe Roberge would be a good mix with him Yeah, that could be a good combo...although there are a lot of other players that could be in the mix of 20's...MacDonald, Welton, Belanger,Adam, Goulet, Gaudet, Spencer...Yandle Karsums Pineault are likelt playing pro next year.
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Post by schrader on Dec 23, 2005 13:22:30 GMT -5
If Goulet does not go pro next year I would be surprised. I was surprised that Graham made it and still is in pro. in the AHL
Everyone been saying I hope Saunders comes back but to me we don't need any more 20 year olds especially on DEfence. I think we are set there We need one more Center man which I'm praying that Bourque come here after the world Jr. That will save from any more trades but I think Nolan know if he is or is not coming after the world Jr. Just hope he is but I'm thinking he isn't and I hope i'm wrongs..... Does anyone know Yandle I think he may know what up since him and Bourgue are very good friends..... We need to keep Marchand , Sampson and Chabot for next year so to me leave them off the trade bate.
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