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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 3, 2007 16:38:26 GMT -5
Funny...MacAusland Hayes and Cross are all committed to BC.
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Post by Shooooot on Jun 3, 2007 18:14:04 GMT -5
MaCAusland mentions his size a number of times as a reason to pick NCAA...maybe after a year of playing with the Beavers he'll feel a little different and join the Cats as a 17 year old.
By the way, for all those complaining about the Cats benefiting from the players who use the "NCAA card" you forget to mention how many times we didn't get a player to report. Obviously this fails more often than it works. We end up throwing out a few picks which should make you happy.
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Post by Shooooot on Jun 3, 2007 19:52:01 GMT -5
Forgot to mention...I am also happy the Cats picked this guy whether he reports or not because Quebec can't grab MacAusland to play again with Tessier. ;D
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 4, 2007 6:29:30 GMT -5
Funny...MacAusland Hayes and Cross are all committed to BC. Actually ... all that means is that they have committed their NCAA rights to BC ... that doesn't mean they are definately going to play NCAA.
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Post by Porkchop on Jun 4, 2007 7:08:09 GMT -5
Brown, McAusland, Hayes, Brannon, Danis-Pepin, sound good to me. Lots of chances taken there.....excluding Brannon of course.....why waste picks on guys that have said they won't report......add Pineault to the list as he came 2 years late after he flunked out of school or something......
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Post by jimmy on Jun 4, 2007 7:42:07 GMT -5
Brown, McAusland, Hayes, Brannon, Danis-Pepin, sound good to me. Lots of chances taken there.....excluding Brannon of course.....why waste picks on guys that have said they won't report......add Pineault to the list as he came 2 years late after he flunked out of school or something...... The strategy, in recent years, seems to be to gamble on high-end guys in the draft who will be big stars if they report ... as opposed to taking a safe pick who projects to only be a role player ... they offset the fact that a lot of these guys don't report by filling holes on the FA market ... it will be interesting to see what changes are coming to the FA process, and the impact it has on the Cats.
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 4, 2007 7:45:02 GMT -5
Brown, McAusland, Hayes, Brannon, Danis-Pepin, sound good to me. Lots of chances taken there.....excluding Brannon of course.....why waste picks on guys that have said they won't report......add Pineault to the list as he came 2 years late after he flunked out of school or something...... Brown already says he is coming ... see this mornings T&T Hayes is a strong possibility this year because he can't play NCAA yet ... Hayes was a 7th rounder ... not a big waste but a steal if he does show ... small cost gamble. Hayes is predicted as a Top 3 pick in the 08 NHL draft ... he is in his draft year now ... so coming to the Q would likely be better for him for the draft. MacAusland feels he is too small to play pro so NCAA is the smarter route for him (get an education) ... but he can get that through Moncton too ... so if that need can be met then he may be interested in staying home to play hockey and go to school. I'm not thrilled by this pick as I'd rather have picked a kid that will report for sure ... but we probably have a better chance than any team of changing his mind. Danis-Papin was a gamble that didn't pay off ... but they haven't closed the book on him yet ... I won't hold my breath ... maybe Torchetti can have some influence now. He was a 7th rounder for a kid rated as a 1st rounder ... same as Hayes ... small risk, big reward Tommy Cross ... 14th rounder ... no gamble whatsover ... if he reports even for one year it is a huge payoff. Ben Higgins ... 9th rounder ... local kid who is choosing baseball over hockey ... although he is going to play hockey too at a university in Maine. Small cost. John Heffernan ... 14th Rounder ... same risk/reward as Cross. I have no problem taking a gamble on a kid with a 7th rounder or later ... as long as you already have 3 or 4 guys drafted that will report and should make your team. Its not like you draft 12-15 guys and expect each of them to make your team ... typically unless you are rebuilding, only 3 or 4 guys from each draft will make your team at the next training camp. So it makes alot of sense to me to take a few shots at some "NCAA" kids that have high end skill ... with the later picks. The options are to draft a career Jr A guy with your 12th pick or take a chance on a guy that can actually be a huge addition to your team. A balance has to be struck between the two. Its not like we are drafting 4th rounders in the 1st round ...
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Post by Porkchop on Jun 4, 2007 8:24:47 GMT -5
Lots of chances taken there.....excluding Brannon of course.....why waste picks on guys that have said they won't report......add Pineault to the list as he came 2 years late after he flunked out of school or something...... Brown already says he is coming ... see this mornings T&T Hayes is a strong possibility this year because he can't play NCAA yet ... Hayes was a 7th rounder ... not a big waste but a steal if he does show ... small cost gamble. Hayes is predicted as a Top 3 pick in the 08 NHL draft ... he is in his draft year now ... so coming to the Q would likely be better for him for the draft. MacAusland feels he is too small to play pro so NCAA is the smarter route for him (get an education) ... but he can get that through Moncton too ... so if that need can be met then he may be interested in staying home to play hockey and go to school. I'm not thrilled by this pick as I'd rather have picked a kid that will report for sure ... but we probably have a better chance than any team of changing his mind. Danis-Papin was a gamble that didn't pay off ... but they haven't closed the book on him yet ... I won't hold my breath ... maybe Torchetti can have some influence now. He was a 7th rounder for a kid rated as a 1st rounder ... same as Hayes ... small risk, big reward Tommy Cross ... 14th rounder ... no gamble whatsover ... if he reports even for one year it is a huge payoff. Ben Higgins ... 9th rounder ... local kid who is choosing baseball over hockey ... although he is going to play hockey too at a university in Maine. Small cost. John Heffernan ... 14th Rounder ... same risk/reward as Cross. I have no problem taking a gamble on a kid with a 7th rounder or later ... as long as you already have 3 or 4 guys drafted that will report and should make your team. Its not like you draft 12-15 guys and expect each of them to make your team ... typically unless you are rebuilding, only 3 or 4 guys from each draft will make your team at the next training camp. So it makes alot of sense to me to take a few shots at some "NCAA" kids that have high end skill ... with the later picks. The options are to draft a career Jr A guy with your 12th pick or take a chance on a guy that can actually be a huge addition to your team. A balance has to be struck between the two. Its not like we are drafting 4th rounders in the 1st round ... I was talking about high picks used, not 14th rounders......where was Danis-Papin drafted?.....Pineault 1st overall?.....Brown 1st round, seems like a good pick......MacAusland 2nd round who is hellbent against the Q.......1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess if you are gambling.........I mean you only would lose 3/4 of your paycheck that way.....
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Post by jimmy on Jun 4, 2007 8:33:12 GMT -5
Brown already says he is coming ... see this mornings T&T Hayes is a strong possibility this year because he can't play NCAA yet ... Hayes was a 7th rounder ... not a big waste but a steal if he does show ... small cost gamble. Hayes is predicted as a Top 3 pick in the 08 NHL draft ... he is in his draft year now ... so coming to the Q would likely be better for him for the draft. MacAusland feels he is too small to play pro so NCAA is the smarter route for him (get an education) ... but he can get that through Moncton too ... so if that need can be met then he may be interested in staying home to play hockey and go to school. I'm not thrilled by this pick as I'd rather have picked a kid that will report for sure ... but we probably have a better chance than any team of changing his mind. Danis-Papin was a gamble that didn't pay off ... but they haven't closed the book on him yet ... I won't hold my breath ... maybe Torchetti can have some influence now. He was a 7th rounder for a kid rated as a 1st rounder ... same as Hayes ... small risk, big reward Tommy Cross ... 14th rounder ... no gamble whatsover ... if he reports even for one year it is a huge payoff. Ben Higgins ... 9th rounder ... local kid who is choosing baseball over hockey ... although he is going to play hockey too at a university in Maine. Small cost. John Heffernan ... 14th Rounder ... same risk/reward as Cross. I have no problem taking a gamble on a kid with a 7th rounder or later ... as long as you already have 3 or 4 guys drafted that will report and should make your team. Its not like you draft 12-15 guys and expect each of them to make your team ... typically unless you are rebuilding, only 3 or 4 guys from each draft will make your team at the next training camp. So it makes alot of sense to me to take a few shots at some "NCAA" kids that have high end skill ... with the later picks. The options are to draft a career Jr A guy with your 12th pick or take a chance on a guy that can actually be a huge addition to your team. A balance has to be struck between the two. Its not like we are drafting 4th rounders in the 1st round ... I was talking about high picks used, not 14th rounders......where was Danis-Papin drafted?.....Pineault 1st overall?.....Brown 1st round, seems like a good pick......MacAusland 2nd round who is hellbent against the Q.......1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess if you are gambling.........I mean you only would lose 3/4 of your paycheck that way..... Danis-Pepin was a gamble we took in the 7th round ... not much risk there - take a look at the guys drafted in the picks following him for fun and see if you recognize any names ... Pineault, we had for 2 years out of the four we held his rights ... but they were his best two years (18 and 19) ... IMO he didn't turn out to be all that great, but he was a good player for us nonetheless ... we definitely would have been better off had we just chosen Olivier Latendresse who went 5th overall, immediately after we took Pineault 4th ... score that one a 50% grade. Brown is apparently going to come, MacAusland may or may not show ... but I would expect that once he gets a nice education package, and mom/dad get offered a nice new job working for one of the Irving Group companies, we will see him here in August.
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Post by Porkchop on Jun 4, 2007 8:48:03 GMT -5
I was talking about high picks used, not 14th rounders......where was Danis-Papin drafted?.....Pineault 1st overall?.....Brown 1st round, seems like a good pick......MacAusland 2nd round who is hellbent against the Q.......1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess if you are gambling.........I mean you only would lose 3/4 of your paycheck that way..... Danis-Pepin was a gamble we took in the 7th round ... not much risk there - take a look at the guys drafted in the picks following him for fun and see if you recognize any names ... Pineault, we had for 2 years out of the four we held his rights ... but they were his best two years (18 and 19) ... IMO he didn't turn out to be all that great, but he was a good player for us nonetheless ... we definitely would have been better off had we just chosen Olivier Latendresse who went 5th overall, immediately after we took Pineault 4th ... score that one a 50% grade. Brown is apparently going to come, MacAusland may or may not show ... but I would expect that once he gets a nice education package, and mom/dad get offered a nice new job working for one of the Irving Group companies, we will see him here in August. If Mac shows up there will be worse talk about Moncton than there was about Quebec last year with Espo......
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Post by wild1 on Jun 4, 2007 9:12:40 GMT -5
What about Brian Strait any word on him? Also Flynn mention a FA who is a goal scorer does anyone have any info on this?
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Post by jimmy on Jun 4, 2007 9:15:34 GMT -5
Danis-Pepin was a gamble we took in the 7th round ... not much risk there - take a look at the guys drafted in the picks following him for fun and see if you recognize any names ... Pineault, we had for 2 years out of the four we held his rights ... but they were his best two years (18 and 19) ... IMO he didn't turn out to be all that great, but he was a good player for us nonetheless ... we definitely would have been better off had we just chosen Olivier Latendresse who went 5th overall, immediately after we took Pineault 4th ... score that one a 50% grade. Brown is apparently going to come, MacAusland may or may not show ... but I would expect that once he gets a nice education package, and mom/dad get offered a nice new job working for one of the Irving Group companies, we will see him here in August. If Mac shows up there will be worse talk about Moncton than there was about Quebec last year with Espo...... Agreed, and it will be justified ...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 4, 2007 9:28:38 GMT -5
Brown already says he is coming ... see this mornings T&T Hayes is a strong possibility this year because he can't play NCAA yet ... Hayes was a 7th rounder ... not a big waste but a steal if he does show ... small cost gamble. Hayes is predicted as a Top 3 pick in the 08 NHL draft ... he is in his draft year now ... so coming to the Q would likely be better for him for the draft. MacAusland feels he is too small to play pro so NCAA is the smarter route for him (get an education) ... but he can get that through Moncton too ... so if that need can be met then he may be interested in staying home to play hockey and go to school. I'm not thrilled by this pick as I'd rather have picked a kid that will report for sure ... but we probably have a better chance than any team of changing his mind. Danis-Papin was a gamble that didn't pay off ... but they haven't closed the book on him yet ... I won't hold my breath ... maybe Torchetti can have some influence now. He was a 7th rounder for a kid rated as a 1st rounder ... same as Hayes ... small risk, big reward Tommy Cross ... 14th rounder ... no gamble whatsover ... if he reports even for one year it is a huge payoff. Ben Higgins ... 9th rounder ... local kid who is choosing baseball over hockey ... although he is going to play hockey too at a university in Maine. Small cost. John Heffernan ... 14th Rounder ... same risk/reward as Cross. I have no problem taking a gamble on a kid with a 7th rounder or later ... as long as you already have 3 or 4 guys drafted that will report and should make your team. Its not like you draft 12-15 guys and expect each of them to make your team ... typically unless you are rebuilding, only 3 or 4 guys from each draft will make your team at the next training camp. So it makes alot of sense to me to take a few shots at some "NCAA" kids that have high end skill ... with the later picks. The options are to draft a career Jr A guy with your 12th pick or take a chance on a guy that can actually be a huge addition to your team. A balance has to be struck between the two. Its not like we are drafting 4th rounders in the 1st round ... I was talking about high picks used, not 14th rounders......where was Danis-Papin drafted?.....Pineault 1st overall?.....Brown 1st round, seems like a good pick......MacAusland 2nd round who is hellbent against the Q.......1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess if you are gambling.........I mean you only would lose 3/4 of your paycheck that way..... Pineault was a poor risk...especially given the fact that there were guys like Aubin and Latendresse available who were coming for sure. MacAusland is a better risk IMHO because they got him late 2nd round(about 1 1/2 rounds later than where he belongs). The jury is out on wether the Cats could afford such a gamble. they have plenty of depth up front but could use a few d-men and a 1991 goalie.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 4, 2007 9:35:55 GMT -5
I was talking about high picks used, not 14th rounders......where was Danis-Papin drafted?.....Pineault 1st overall?.....Brown 1st round, seems like a good pick......MacAusland 2nd round who is hellbent against the Q.......1 out of 4 ain't bad I guess if you are gambling.........I mean you only would lose 3/4 of your paycheck that way..... Danis-Pepin was a gamble we took in the 7th round ... not much risk there - take a look at the guys drafted in the picks following him for fun and see if you recognize any names ... Pineault, we had for 2 years out of the four we held his rights ... but they were his best two years (18 and 19) ... IMO he didn't turn out to be all that great, but he was a good player for us nonetheless ... we definitely would have been better off had we just chosen Olivier Latendresse who went 5th overall, immediately after we took Pineault 4th ... score that one a 50% grade. Brown is apparently going to come, MacAusland may or may not show ... but I would expect that once he gets a nice education package, and mom/dad get offered a nice new job working for one of the Irving Group companies, we will see him here in August. His Dad owns Rallye Motors...I don't think $$$ is the issue.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 4, 2007 9:37:51 GMT -5
What about Brian Strait any word on him? Also Flynn mention a FA who is a goal scorer does anyone have any info on this? Strait is at BU and they dropped him from the 50 man list so he won't play here...ever.
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