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Post by CrazyJoeDevola on Jun 19, 2006 8:23:55 GMT -5
I know what guys say in the papers... but you never know what could happen. But even without those guys, in our weak division, we have some young talented guys as a core and this euro may come in an light it up. A pretty solid D core, and Duchesne back, and this team will win some games. I'm just saying if some of our non-expected players decide to come, it will only help even more. Euros rarely light it up at 17, I think some people in Halifax expect too much from him. There is a pretty big culture shock, living in a new country, far away from home, plus the big difference in style of play. Even guys like Radulov had an adjustment period getting into the Q...and he came at 18. He is a guy who can be an impact guy for you at 18 and 19 moreso than next year...if everything goes smoothly. As we saw with Jindrich, some Euros just never get acclamatised. Pretty much all our high end euro's have worked out... Aseev was a bust, but really everyone else stepped right in and had no adjustment issues for the most part. Nagy, Klyzamin and Vrana were immediately some of our top offensive threats... Shefer was decent too but hogged the puck a bit too much. He is coming over with projections of being a top 10 NHL pick, and the stats are pretty impressive also. I'd say its more likely he comes in and becomes a 1st line scorer for us than it is he comes in and struggles to adapt to the new environment. I could be wrong, but he sounds like a high end talent.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 19, 2006 9:02:37 GMT -5
Euros rarely light it up at 17, I think some people in Halifax expect too much from him. There is a pretty big culture shock, living in a new country, far away from home, plus the big difference in style of play. Even guys like Radulov had an adjustment period getting into the Q...and he came at 18. He is a guy who can be an impact guy for you at 18 and 19 moreso than next year...if everything goes smoothly. As we saw with Jindrich, some Euros just never get acclamatised. Pretty much all our high end euro's have worked out... Aseev was a bust, but really everyone else stepped right in and had no adjustment issues for the most part. Nagy, Klyzamin and Vrana were immediately some of our top offensive threats... Shefer was decent too but hogged the puck a bit too much. He is coming over with projections of being a top 10 NHL pick, and the stats are pretty impressive also. I'd say its more likely he comes in and becomes a 1st line scorer for us than it is he comes in and struggles to adapt to the new environment. I could be wrong, but he sounds like a high end talent. I'm not saying he won't become a top talent for you guys, but I think he won't give you as much as many expect at 17...especially the first couple of months. He won't be surrounded by all stars either, he'll probably be the most skilled player on your roster. Jurcina came at 17 and was basically a 5th or 6th d-man. Vrana struggled the first couple of months after he came over, then had a big 2nd half, but he had the benefit of having wingers like Guenette and Cyr. The top 3 Euro picks in the Q were basically busts, Bergforst ended up ion the AHL, Bartos was a big disapointment and Jindrich was sent home because he was homesick.
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Post by CrazyJoeDevola on Jun 19, 2006 9:30:10 GMT -5
Pretty much all our high end euro's have worked out... Aseev was a bust, but really everyone else stepped right in and had no adjustment issues for the most part. Nagy, Klyzamin and Vrana were immediately some of our top offensive threats... Shefer was decent too but hogged the puck a bit too much. He is coming over with projections of being a top 10 NHL pick, and the stats are pretty impressive also. I'd say its more likely he comes in and becomes a 1st line scorer for us than it is he comes in and struggles to adapt to the new environment. I could be wrong, but he sounds like a high end talent. I'm not saying he won't become a top talent for you guys, but I think he won't give you as much as many expect at 17...especially the first couple of months. He won't be surrounded by all stars either, he'll probably be the most skilled player on your roster. Jurcina came at 17 and was basically a 5th or 6th d-man. Vrana struggled the first couple of months after he came over, then had a big 2nd half, but he had the benefit of having wingers like Guenette and Cyr. The top 3 Euro picks in the Q were basically busts, Bergforst ended up ion the AHL, Bartos was a big disapointment and Jindrich was sent home because he was homesick. And it could happen. But I am "hoping" he steps in and becomes a scorer for us. So lets just leave it at me ASSUMING he will be able to fit in on our top two lines and produce, and you can ASSUME he wont. I hope Im right...
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 19, 2006 9:36:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying he won't become a top talent for you guys, but I think he won't give you as much as many expect at 17...especially the first couple of months. He won't be surrounded by all stars either, he'll probably be the most skilled player on your roster. Jurcina came at 17 and was basically a 5th or 6th d-man. Vrana struggled the first couple of months after he came over, then had a big 2nd half, but he had the benefit of having wingers like Guenette and Cyr. The top 3 Euro picks in the Q were basically busts, Bergforst ended up ion the AHL, Bartos was a big disapointment and Jindrich was sent home because he was homesick. And it could happen. But I am "hoping" he steps in and becomes a scorer for us. So lets just leave it at me ASSUMING he will be able to fit in on our top two lines and produce, and you can ASSUME he wont. I hope Im right... I'm not assuming he won't...just saying that Euros don't always work out, even when they are highly touted and report. I expect him to be around 70 points, which is pretty good for a rookie having to adjust to a new country/culture/style of play. I expect Bathurst(if they fix their goaltending), Lewiston(if they upgrade their 20's) and Cape Breton(if they add a d-man or 2) to be the top 3 around 80-85 points. PEI(if they can add some offense in the Euro draft) and Halifax should be mid pack in the 70-75 point range. Moncton, St.John and St.Johns will battle it out for the last 2 playoff spots...but I expect the Cats to finish 6th mostly due to a hot start(before Samson Welton Bourdon end up elswhere).
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Post by PotatoesRGoodYum on Jun 19, 2006 9:48:27 GMT -5
Who do u think will be the contenders next year? I predict Drum and Gat to lead the way.If Latendresse leaves though Drum will have to make a move in a hurry. Quebec could surprise depending what they pick up for euro's.most of their d-men will be back.If Vlascic returns they will probably have the best d crew in the league. Vd'O,B-C,C-B(with Pavelec) could also cause some damage. We should be bottom feeders along with P.E.I,S-J and Chi who will probably trade the rest of their assets. Victo,Bat,Shaw,R-N should be about average. the other teams i did not mention should be between bottom and average. Looks like the Maritime division will be weak once again! Gatineau needs a goalie as do Bathurst PEI has as good a defense corps as anyone save for maybe Quebec... plus a solid goalie in Mior.. we wont be bottom feeders again this year Shawinigan average? based on what? They arguably were only average last year with a loaded roster... this year they are likely losing Ellis, Bourret, Mondou, Danecek.. traded Guilbault.... and i'm sure i'm missing a few others... they will be bottom feeders this year
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Post by gongshow on Jun 19, 2006 9:55:24 GMT -5
Who do u think will be the contenders next year? I predict Drum and Gat to lead the way.If Latendresse leaves though Drum will have to make a move in a hurry. Quebec could surprise depending what they pick up for euro's.most of their d-men will be back.If Vlascic returns they will probably have the best d crew in the league. Vd'O,B-C,C-B(with Pavelec) could also cause some damage. We should be bottom feeders along with P.E.I,S-J and Chi who will probably trade the rest of their assets. Victo,Bat,Shaw,R-N should be about average. the other teams i did not mention should be between bottom and average. Looks like the Maritime division will be weak once again! Gatineau needs a goalie as do Bathurst PEI has as good a defense corps as anyone save for maybe Quebec... plus a solid goalie in Mior.. we wont be bottom feeders again this year Shawinigan average? based on what? They arguably were only average last year with a loaded roster... this year they are likely losing Ellis, Bourret, Mondou, Danecek.. traded Guilbault.... and i'm sure i'm missing a few others... they will be bottom feeders this year I predict Shaw as being average because they are always a tough team to play against,very physically intimidating and the old Jacques Plante barn seems to cause alot of teams trouble. Put it this way they should be as good as P.E.I...there does that sound better.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 19, 2006 9:56:04 GMT -5
Who do u think will be the contenders next year? I predict Drum and Gat to lead the way.If Latendresse leaves though Drum will have to make a move in a hurry. Quebec could surprise depending what they pick up for euro's.most of their d-men will be back.If Vlascic returns they will probably have the best d crew in the league. Vd'O,B-C,C-B(with Pavelec) could also cause some damage. We should be bottom feeders along with P.E.I,S-J and Chi who will probably trade the rest of their assets. Victo,Bat,Shaw,R-N should be about average. the other teams i did not mention should be between bottom and average. Looks like the Maritime division will be weak once again! Gatineau needs a goalie as do Bathurst PEI has as good a defense corps as anyone save for maybe Quebec... plus a solid goalie in Mior.. we wont be bottom feeders again this year Shawinigan average? based on what? They arguably were only average last year with a loaded roster... this year they are likely losing Ellis, Bourret, Mondou, Danecek.. traded Guilbault.... and i'm sure i'm missing a few others... they will be bottom feeders this year Moncton's returning defense is as good or better as Quebec's...Welton Bourdon A.MacDonald Bartulis vs Vlasic Andricopoulos Veilleux Ryan I get a feeling that Gatineau is getting an Euro goalie and bathurst could get one too.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 19, 2006 10:19:08 GMT -5
Gatineau needs a goalie as do Bathurst PEI has as good a defense corps as anyone save for maybe Quebec... plus a solid goalie in Mior.. we wont be bottom feeders again this year Shawinigan average? based on what? They arguably were only average last year with a loaded roster... this year they are likely losing Ellis, Bourret, Mondou, Danecek.. traded Guilbault.... and i'm sure i'm missing a few others... they will be bottom feeders this year I predict Shaw as being average because they are always a tough team to play against,very physically intimidating and the old Jacques Plante barn seems to cause alot of teams trouble. Put it this way they should be as good as P.E.I...there does that sound better. They are losing huge chunks of their team and are playing in a very toungh division(Dru RN Gat Que VD). Ellis, Desilets, Guilbault, Bourret, Mondou, Labrecque, Danecek plus all but 3 of Begin Vienneau Manson Bellefleur Bouchard. Their top players will be Pare Paquet Bernier Lalonde-McNicholl plus their 3 20 year olds. They might make the playoffs because Chicoutimi is in their division but finish 9th as Baie Comeau Victo and Rimouski should all be improved from 05-06.
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Post by cbtitan on Jun 19, 2006 12:17:33 GMT -5
Who do u think will be the contenders next year? I predict Drum and Gat to lead the way.If Latendresse leaves though Drum will have to make a move in a hurry. Quebec could surprise depending what they pick up for euro's.most of their d-men will be back.If Vlascic returns they will probably have the best d crew in the league. Vd'O,B-C,C-B(with Pavelec) could also cause some damage. We should be bottom feeders along with P.E.I,S-J and Chi who will probably trade the rest of their assets. Victo,Bat,Shaw,R-N should be about average. the other teams i did not mention should be between bottom and average. Looks like the Maritime division will be weak once again! You forgot mentioning Lewiston who should be one of the top Maritime team. As for the Titan, I expect them to be one of the top-3 Eastern Division teams....I don't see how you can insert us with Shawinigan and Victo.The Huskies, contrary to your stance, should be quite strong next season....they lost Magnan, but they still retain a very strong team of young players who finished strong last season.I see them at 80 points+.
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Post by gongshow on Jun 19, 2006 14:34:06 GMT -5
Who do u think will be the contenders next year? I predict Drum and Gat to lead the way.If Latendresse leaves though Drum will have to make a move in a hurry. Quebec could surprise depending what they pick up for euro's.most of their d-men will be back.If Vlascic returns they will probably have the best d crew in the league. Vd'O,B-C,C-B(with Pavelec) could also cause some damage. We should be bottom feeders along with P.E.I,S-J and Chi who will probably trade the rest of their assets. Victo,Bat,Shaw,R-N should be about average. the other teams i did not mention should be between bottom and average. Looks like the Maritime division will be weak once again! You forgot mentioning Lewiston who should be one of the top Maritime team. As for the Titan, I expect them to be one of the top-3 Eastern Division teams....I don't see how you can insert us with Shawinigan and Victo.The Huskies, contrary to your stance, should be quite strong next season....they lost Magnan, but they still retain a very strong team of young players who finished strong last season.I see them at 80 points+. First of all i started this thread to see what people's opinion were going to be.To me it's much too early to judge next season anyway and i went off the top of my head,i didn't put hours of recherche to see every player leaving etc... Now that i look at it,yes Shaw should be weak. Yes i overlooked Lewiston. Victo is only loosing Noreau,Lizon and Remy Tremblay...not exactly huge losses except for Noreau and they do not have a surplus of 20's.Therefore i say my prediction that they should be average seems pretty fair. R-N still does not impress me and i think they're a bit overated....with Justin Munden as their big gun can't see them overacheving.They lost Magnan which is huge.But i could see them being a top team in 2007-08. As for bathurst i think they are the hardest to predict.....but yes i probably did underate them.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 19, 2006 17:10:44 GMT -5
You forgot mentioning Lewiston who should be one of the top Maritime team. As for the Titan, I expect them to be one of the top-3 Eastern Division teams....I don't see how you can insert us with Shawinigan and Victo.The Huskies, contrary to your stance, should be quite strong next season....they lost Magnan, but they still retain a very strong team of young players who finished strong last season.I see them at 80 points+. First of all i started this thread to see what people's opinion were going to be.To me it's much too early to judge next season anyway and i went off the top of my head,i didn't put hours of recherche to see every player leaving etc... Now that i look at it,yes Shaw should be weak. Yes i overlooked Lewiston. Victo is only loosing Noreau,Lizon and Remy Tremblay...not exactly huge losses except for Noreau and they do not have a surplus of 20's.Therefore i say my prediction that they should be average seems pretty fair. R-N still does not impress me and i think they're a bit overated....with Justin Munden as their big gun can't see them overacheving.They lost Magnan which is huge.But i could see them being a top team in 2007-08. As for bathurst i think they are the hardest to predict.....but yes i probably did underate them. Why would they lose Noreau? He is only 19 next year. Munden is one of RN's 20's but they have bigger "guns" like Carpentier Vishnevsky Dubuc and Riendeau entering their prime.
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Post by gongshow on Jun 20, 2006 6:02:09 GMT -5
I was sure Noreau was 20....who was their other 20?In that case they'll be a bit stronger even.
R-N is loaded with 18 yr olds and their 19's and 20's are hardly impact players Champagne(20),Munden(20),Whitehead(20),Buc(19),Lepine(19).The only one would be Levasseur as he could steal a few extra wins for them.That's why my prediction that they should be a top team in 07-08 seems a bit more realistic. I'm not trying to say they're going to be a bottom feeder,but barring any blockbuster trades i can't see them going far in the playoff.............not enough toughness.
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Post by mikeb on Jun 20, 2006 6:16:58 GMT -5
I have a feeling that the Titan are going into the Euro draft looking for a goaltender ... or if that doesn't pan out ... will make a move in August to fill that void. Yah and the odds are probably better of Aubin coming back then the Titan's are, on finding a good Euro goaltender in the Euro draft. Hey stranger things have happened. With or without Aubin you guys will be at or near the top. With Aubin, you guys are the top team IMO in the Division.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 20, 2006 7:12:36 GMT -5
I was sure Noreau was 20....who was their other 20?In that case they'll be a bit stronger even. R-N is loaded with 18 yr olds and their 19's and 20's are hardly impact players Champagne(20),Munden(20),Whitehead(20),Buc(19),Lepine(19).The only one would be Levasseur as he could steal a few extra wins for them.That's why my prediction that they should be a top team in 07-08 seems a bit more realistic. I'm not trying to say they're going to be a bottom feeder,but barring any blockbuster trades i can't see them going far in the playoff.............not enough toughness. They were 5th last year with 91 points and only lost K.Doucet G.Doucet Magnan MacAuley Starenky, why wouldn't they be better? Their core is a year older and Quebec and Chicoutimi no longer stand in their way.
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Post by MikeC on Jun 20, 2006 8:20:34 GMT -5
I was sure Noreau was 20....who was their other 20?In that case they'll be a bit stronger even. R-N is loaded with 18 yr olds and their 19's and 20's are hardly impact players Champagne(20),Munden(20),Whitehead(20),Buc(19),Lepine(19).The only one would be Levasseur as he could steal a few extra wins for them.That's why my prediction that they should be a top team in 07-08 seems a bit more realistic. I'm not trying to say they're going to be a bottom feeder,but barring any blockbuster trades i can't see them going far in the playoff.............not enough toughness. Munden had 80 points and led the team in scoring. Whitehead had 22 goals. That's one average and one above-average 20 year old. Just off the top of my head, Munden may even be one of the top five 20 year old forwards this season (Desharnais, Roy, Beauregard, Aubin).
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