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Post by gongshow on Jun 13, 2006 6:01:23 GMT -5
Rumor has it he looking at this option because he's not keen on going to Val d'or.........cry baby cry!
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Post by falcon on Jun 13, 2006 6:19:24 GMT -5
It is in the Daily News this morning, that he is receiving offers and does not want to report to VAL (which Marchand told Moncton when the trade was going down). The VAL GM is quoted as saying "for no consideration will we trade Marchand"....this could get ugly
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Post by Ace on Jun 13, 2006 6:50:31 GMT -5
Why wouldn't we try to rework the deal or is it too late as it was posted on the Q web site at the draft. As it would now be official?
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Post by jimmy on Jun 13, 2006 7:01:50 GMT -5
Why wouldn't we try to rework the deal or is it too late as it was posted on the Q web site at the draft. As it would now be official? Too late - Val d'Or could trade Marchand in August if they so decided, but not to the Cats. Val d'Or seems to be building a good team for next year - added Mathieu Roy, Maxime Lincourt, Alexandre Vincent, Marchand, possibly Samson at Xmas.... that might help tempt Marchand to report. I would think whatever NHL team drafts him would strongly encourage him to report as well, USHL is basically a strong Jr A league, wouldn't be so bad to spend a year waiting to play NCAA, but for Marchand to play two years there would be a huge transition to pro hockey...
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 13, 2006 7:11:59 GMT -5
Why wouldn't we try to rework the deal or is it too late as it was posted on the Q web site at the draft. As it would now be official? Too late - Val d'Or could trade Marchand in August if they so decided, but not to the Cats. Val d'Or seems to be building a good team for next year - added Mathieu Roy, Maxime Lincourt, Alexandre Vincent, Marchand, possibly Samson at Xmas.... that might help tempt Marchand to report. I would think whatever NHL team drafts him would strongly encourage him to report as well, USHL is basically a strong Jr A league, wouldn't be so bad to spend a year waiting to play NCAA, but for Marchand to play two years there would be a huge transition to pro hockey... I wouldn't say it is too late ... the Q could simply void the second part of that trade that sent Marchand over there ... if both parties were in agreement. They won't do that in August/September but they might do it now since its only 4 days old. We can send them Bartulis and a pick instead ... toss in a 20 yr old too if thats helps.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 13, 2006 7:23:22 GMT -5
If Marchand and his camp were smart, they'd just report instead of causing a stink and hurting his draft rating. I don't think too many NHL teams like players that try and decide where they will or won't play...especially small market teams. Justin Munden proved that moving from Halifax to RN did wonders for his career.
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Post by falcon on Jun 13, 2006 7:33:24 GMT -5
If Marchand and his camp were smart, they'd just report instead of causing a stink and hurting his draft rating. I don't think too many NHL teams like players that try and decide where they will or won't play...especially small market teams. Justin Munden proved that moving from Halifax to RN did wonders for his career. I am sure Marchand feels betrayed by the Cats. If was drafted out of MAAA by VAL he would have pursed other options and likely not have reported. The Cats made deals with guys like AMacD who get to stay while guys who were loyal like Marchand get screwed over and shipped to the outpost. I would be quiet if I were him though until after the draft. ROU liked Munden, K Doucet, MacAulay and Whitehead so much they drafted a shitload of Maritimers (or did they do that for Moncton to ensure they get Bourdon/Welton etc?).
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 13, 2006 8:02:24 GMT -5
If Marchand and his camp were smart, they'd just report instead of causing a stink and hurting his draft rating. I don't think too many NHL teams like players that try and decide where they will or won't play...especially small market teams. Justin Munden proved that moving from Halifax to RN did wonders for his career. I am sure Marchand feels betrayed by the Cats. If was drafted out of MAAA by VAL he would have pursed other options and likely not have reported. The Cats made deals with guys like AMacD who get to stay while guys who were loyal like Marchand get screwed over and shipped to the outpost. I would be quiet if I were him though until after the draft. ROU liked Munden, K Doucet, MacAulay and Whitehead so much they drafted a shitload of Maritimers (or did they do that for Moncton to ensure they get Bourdon/Welton etc?). What makes Marchand "loyal" when compared to MacDonald or anybody else that came in new ? "Screwed over" would be what happened to Girard (we took him off waivers ... we owed him nothing), Demers (more loyal than Marchand), Blanchard (more loyal), Adam (too many injuries to be loyal to him) ... these guys didn't get a chance to play for the Mem Cup. Andrew MacDonald is only staying for now ... we need to deal a few 20's and he is more marketable than some others. All of these kids coming into the season knew there was a possibility that they were going to be traded ... they accepted that risk when they reported to camp in August. I like your thinking with RN ... I'm sure VD would be very pissed if we traded Bourdon over there.
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Post by Cristobal Huet on Jun 13, 2006 8:21:51 GMT -5
If Marchand and his camp were smart, they'd just report instead of causing a stink and hurting his draft rating. I don't think too many NHL teams like players that try and decide where they will or won't play...especially small market teams. Justin Munden proved that moving from Halifax to RN did wonders for his career. I am sure Marchand feels betrayed by the Cats. If was drafted out of MAAA by VAL he would have pursed other options and likely not have reported. The Cats made deals with guys like AMacD who get to stay while guys who were loyal like Marchand get screwed over and shipped to the outpost. I would be quiet if I were him though until after the draft. ROU liked Munden, K Doucet, MacAulay and Whitehead so much they drafted a shitload of Maritimers (or did they do that for Moncton to ensure they get Bourdon/Welton etc?). Marchand told all Q teams he would report last year, VD included, why the problem now? Getting traded is part of the game...it is also in pro hockey. At least he should try it for half the year, if it doesn't work, THEN ask for a trade.
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Post by PotatoesRGoodYum on Jun 13, 2006 8:29:02 GMT -5
Maybe Val D'ors need some new Maritime staff to help kids adjust over there
Maybe they should have drafted a few maritime players in the past few years
I don't blame Marchand for not wanting to report but going USHL would not be a smart career move and as others said creating a stink right before his NHL draft is not real smart either
Is his agent Cranston by chance?
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 13, 2006 8:48:40 GMT -5
I am sure Marchand feels betrayed by the Cats. If was drafted out of MAAA by VAL he would have pursed other options and likely not have reported. The Cats made deals with guys like AMacD who get to stay while guys who were loyal like Marchand get screwed over and shipped to the outpost. I would be quiet if I were him though until after the draft. ROU liked Munden, K Doucet, MacAulay and Whitehead so much they drafted a shitload of Maritimers (or did they do that for Moncton to ensure they get Bourdon/Welton etc?). Marchand told all Q teams he would report last year, VD included, why the problem now? Getting traded is part of the game...it is also in pro hockey. At least he should try it for half the year, if it doesn't work, THEN ask for a trade. Trading is part of the game ... yes ... but I wouldn't compare it to the pros. The pros is a full time job with an income .. not many crappy little towns in the middle of nowhere have pro teams ... you live on your own (or at least without billets and/or your parents) ... plus some pro teams (all NHL teams) fly to their road games ... and there is never a language issue to deal with for a kid from Halifax (unless he decides to play in Europe). In the pros you have the means to make yourself a new life in your new home. Getting traded to VD means he lives with a new billet family ... somebody elses home ... something many of us have never experienced ... gets plopped down in the middle of nowhere so his road trips all start with at least an 8 hr bus ride ... new school ... new language ... new culture ...leaving behind a girlfriend perhaps ... for Marchand he is much farther from home so family and friends don't get to see him play often. Going from a wealthy organization to a poor organization with limited facilities will be an adjustment. There is an awful lot to hate about getting traded to VD ... I wouldn't blame any kid for being hesitant to go there. In the NHL ... if I play for a wealthy team like Dallas ... making $3 million a year .... and get traded to a team like Columbus ... I still get my $3 million so I can make myself very comfortable wherever I go ... and Columbus is hardly a little town in the middle of nowhere ... Jack Nicklaus lives there. Lets pretend that Florida is so broke that they have to cut some flights out of there budget and so any eastern conference road trips must be done by bus. How would you like to get traded from NYR to Florida ? It would sort of be the same as getting traded from Moncton (or Halifax) to VD.
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Post by hockeyfan42 on Jun 14, 2006 7:28:58 GMT -5
Unless Cedar Rapids, Iowa is something special, the USHL like the CHL has some teams in urban and not so urban areas. It is no closer to home so it boils down to culture, language, education and/or bus trips. There are plenty of teams in the Q that could adress some if not all of these issues (some of which may not be a concern to him). I think the USHL would love to have him, but I can't see it happening. It is a step down.
VD is in a great position to compete this year and if Marchand doesn't report, I'm sure some type of deal will happen. Unless he is insistent that it's one or two teams only, something can and should happen.
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Post by gongshow on Jun 14, 2006 7:52:09 GMT -5
bet he'll end up in Hfx,i think that's his plan all along.
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Post by Fyrdog76 on Jun 14, 2006 8:13:19 GMT -5
bet he'll end up in Hfx,i think that's his plan all along. I've been thinking the same thing, it wouldnt suprise me at all if VD swings him to Halifax. It's unfortunate that he has to threaten to not report to get what he wants.
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Post by falcon on Jun 14, 2006 8:28:32 GMT -5
bet he'll end up in Hfx,i think that's his plan all along. I've been thinking the same thing, it wouldnt suprise me at all if VD swings him to Halifax. It's unfortunate that he has to threaten to not report to get what he wants. As much as the fans and Marchand himself would love to play in Halifax, it is not likely to happen. Halifax will not give up the young player(s), and lacks the impact player VAL would expect back in a trade. Baturst/PEI/CAP and for sure Lewiston have assests of interest to VAL and would more than likely be the destination for Marchand should he and VAL not come to terms.
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