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Aug 23, 2005 14:33:12 GMT -5
Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 23, 2005 14:33:12 GMT -5
It could very well happen depending on how he plays and how much ice time he gets. OK folks it's time to realize that Chris Bourque will not be coming to Moncton. I e-mailed a writer for the Capitals on the situation and this is the response I got: Let's just accept that he's not coming and move on. It will still come down to how he plays AHL and how much ice time he has there. Coming here is obviously only plan B for the Caps but itr may be more attractive in 1-2 or 3 months...I'm not counting on it, but stranger things have happened.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:39:43 GMT -5
Post by Ric on Aug 23, 2005 14:39:43 GMT -5
Didn't we all really know that this Bourque thing wasn't going to work out. But you know, we were all pissed at the possibility Pineault wasn't going to show last year, and lets be honest, except for a few flashes of brilliance (slap shot goals from just outside the blueline) we would not have done worse last year without him. I, however believe his play this year could improve our overall play dramatically, if he shows a consistent effort and ends up with the appropriate line mates.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:43:42 GMT -5
Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 23, 2005 14:43:42 GMT -5
Didn't we all really know that this Bourque thing wasn't going to work out. But you know, we were all pissed at the possibility Pineault wasn't going to show last year, and lets be honest, except for a few flashes of brilliance (slap shot goals from just outside the blueline) we would not have done worse last year without him. I, however believe his play this year could improve our overall play dramatically, if he shows a consistent effort and ends up with the appropriate line mates. Umm, the guy himself said in the paper he was quitting Bc to come here, why not believe him. I'm sure if Washington had said he should come here he would have. Pineault was defintely a good addition(26 goals in 61 games is pretty good in today's Q), like Graham he gets knocked because he is inconsistant. Had he not hurt his knee(slowed him down then he missed 6-7 games) he may have hit 35 goals. He can definitely give more and that will be one of Nolan's challenges, to get 35 goals and 70+ points out of Pineault and 80 points out of Graham.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:50:42 GMT -5
Post by Ric on Aug 23, 2005 14:50:42 GMT -5
Players have made plenty of statements about their plans, IE planning to play NCAA, only to be left unprotected, and picked up by other teams. It's about the same level of honesty as Big Brother.
Was Pineault the impact player you expected, 26 goals or not? I'm talking the timely goals, momentum shifting type of impact player he appeared to be early on.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:53:44 GMT -5
Post by Cristobal Huet on Aug 23, 2005 14:53:44 GMT -5
Players have made plenty of statements about their plans, IE planning to play NCAA, only to be left unprotected, and picked up by other teams. It's about the same level of honesty as Big Brother. Was Pineault the impact player you expected, 26 goals or not? I'm talking the timely goals, momentum shifting type of impact player he appeared to be early on. Why would Bourque say he was coming here if he wasn't intending to? Players use NCAA as a negotaiating ploy but Bourque only had pro as the other option, which was out of his control anyways. He probably had every intention of playing here until Washington offered a contract. I expected more, but he wasn't exactly a bust...just a bit too inconsistant.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:56:48 GMT -5
Post by Ric on Aug 23, 2005 14:56:48 GMT -5
Players have made plenty of statements about their plans, IE planning to play NCAA, only to be left unprotected, and picked up by other teams. It's about the same level of honesty as Big Brother. Was Pineault the impact player you expected, 26 goals or not? I'm talking the timely goals, momentum shifting type of impact player he appeared to be early on. . I expected more, but he wasn't exactly a bust...just a bit too inconsistant. I agree.
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Aug 23, 2005 14:57:46 GMT -5
Post by Ric on Aug 23, 2005 14:57:46 GMT -5
.... with your Pineault statement.
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Aug 23, 2005 19:47:08 GMT -5
Post by MikeC on Aug 23, 2005 19:47:08 GMT -5
OK folks it's time to realize that Chris Bourque will not be coming to Moncton. I e-mailed a writer for the Capitals on the situation and this is the response I got: Let's just accept that he's not coming and move on. Fehr and Green are a little different in that they would both be 20 year olds this year. Also, Fehr was drafted in 2003 so he had to be signed or he would have gone back into the draft this year.
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Aug 23, 2005 22:58:53 GMT -5
Post by murph on Aug 23, 2005 22:58:53 GMT -5
OK folks it's time to realize that Chris Bourque will not be coming to Moncton. I e-mailed a writer for the Capitals on the situation and this is the response I got: Let's just accept that he's not coming and move on. It will still come down to how he plays AHL and how much ice time he has there. Coming here is obviously only plan B for the Caps but itr may be more attractive in 1-2 or 3 months...I'm not counting on it, but stranger things have happened. No Billy, it doesn't matter how well he plays. He likely won't play that well. But it won't matter. It's about his development. He will learn infinately more if all he does is practice at the AHL than he would in Junior. Why do you think the CHL has a clause that prevents 18 and 19 year olds from playing in the AHL? It's because every last decent prospect in the CHL would be in the AHL once they're drafted. You seem to be under the impression that being in the Memorial Cup is this great cog in developing a player, but it's not. It's just another junior hockey game. No different than any other Q league playoff game, in terms of intensity or pace. All the Memorial Cup means is more exposure. A guy like Josh Hennessy was inticed by it, because when Quebec hosted, he was in his draft year. More exposure. A guy like Joe DiPenta was inticed, because he was unsigned, and ended up getting signed 2 years earlier than he would have, had he stayed at BU. The Memorial Cup won't benefit these guys devlopment, aside from the fact that it's a few more extra games and practices compared to all the other players not in the tournament. Guys like Dupuis and Bourque, simply won't benefit from it the way you think they will. Especially Dupuis, since he's already played in two.
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Aug 23, 2005 23:24:05 GMT -5
Post by Mac_27 on Aug 23, 2005 23:24:05 GMT -5
It will still come down to how he plays AHL and how much ice time he has there. Coming here is obviously only plan B for the Caps but itr may be more attractive in 1-2 or 3 months...I'm not counting on it, but stranger things have happened. The Memorial Cup won't benefit these guys devlopment, aside from the fact that it's a few more extra games and practices compared to all the other players not in the tournament. Guys like Dupuis and Bourque, simply won't benefit from it the way you think they will. Especially Dupuis, since he's already played in two. I agree I don't see Bourque in the plans... Yes I know he said he was coming here, but sometimes things change on a dime. So if Washington feels he is ready for the AHL then there is nothing more the Cats can do... Right now they are hoping they get lucky and he ends up here! Dupuis I am a little more optimistic about seeing in a Cats jersey... But the 20 year old trading market is still open hopefully once we find out the status of our 20 year olds... Mostly Dupuis then we can hopefully swing a deal to get some more impact 20 year olds here... I am thinking more like Bolduc or Coloumbe from Rimouski, and maybe Rane Carnegie or David Brine from the Mooseheads... and go with 2 of them 4 with Graham.
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Aug 24, 2005 5:37:58 GMT -5
Post by IceLady10 on Aug 24, 2005 5:37:58 GMT -5
[/quote]If you were last playing in the CHL before you were taken in the NHL draft, you cannot play in the AHL until your 20 year old season. It does not matter if if you are European, Canadian, or American. If you were last playing in any other league, in any other country (Prep School, NCAA, European league) before you were taken in the NHL draft, you are eligible to play in the AHL beginning in your 18 year old season. Again, sorry, but this has got to be my biggest pet peeve. [/quote] I know you said this is your pet peave but i want to make sure i get this. So since Pineault was at BC when he was drafted he is eligble to play in the AHL now even though he is in Moncton at this point??
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Aug 24, 2005 6:44:15 GMT -5
Post by Dirty Afanasenkov on Aug 24, 2005 6:44:15 GMT -5
I know you said this is your pet peave but i want to make sure i get this. So since Pineault was at BC when he was drafted he is eligble to play in the AHL now even though he is in Moncton at this point?? Correct. Doug McLean (GM in Columbus) has said he wanted Pineault to get 2 years Junior experience, hence why he is here.
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Aug 24, 2005 7:17:17 GMT -5
Post by Yankees Suck on Aug 24, 2005 7:17:17 GMT -5
Bourque didn't put up great numbers in college. He had trouble getting regular ice time because he was younger than most. This will be the same in minor pro. He is the type of player that must play on 1st or 2nd line. His size hinders him from being effective on 3rd or 4th in pro hockey. I expect that once he stuggles in minor pro they will decide the cats are the best place for him.
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